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01 Apr 2005, 5:22 am

I forgot to mention that the reason it is a seperate sight is because the functions that it is needed to perform outway what this site is capable of.

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WOOHOOO ! ! Welcome back Mel. It's ok that you can't post often. It will be a pleasant suprise when we do see your name on the boards then wont it. Thank for your input on this forum. And people will get to know you from your previous posts anyway. :P

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01 Apr 2005, 6:14 am

Those sort of things should be thought about before people are randomly made moderators.

I don't see why leaving is going to help those issues, unless you really hate posting here.



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01 Apr 2005, 6:28 am

Do you mean that all moderators need to be committed forever despite changing responsabilities in ones own life?

Mel was a fine moderator not some radomly picked thing!

I think what she is doing is trimming down on responsibilities in one area of her life to be able to apply more energy to those things in life that are currently more of a priority. Famliy, work and self lesuire. Maybe you don't see how it will help because you don't run a household.



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01 Apr 2005, 6:29 am

hale_bopp wrote:
Those sort of things should be thought about before people are randomly made moderators.

I don't see why leaving is going to help those issues, unless you really hate posting here.


Randomly made a moderator? On what grounds are you making that assertion, hale_bopp? I'm not going to go into the reasons why Alex made her a moderator, but she was a damn good one, making an effort to help other members and foster a community spirit - and worked hard getting the chatroom back in use.

She has cyclical depression which has made her feel very low and disconnected for periods of time, which is why she hasn't felt up to being involved with WrongPlanet recently. As to whether Mel decides to leave or not and whether that would help her, thats her own business don't you agree?

Thanks for the supportive commentary anyway.

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01 Apr 2005, 6:40 am

hale_bopp wrote:
Those sort of things should be thought about before people are randomly made moderators.

I don't see why leaving is going to help those issues, unless you really hate posting here.


Why do you have to be so nasty about it? You could have just said thanks for your time Mel...of better still...nothing!

That was just thoughtless, shallow and mean. I am not usually this intolerant of people, but this post was pointless and harmful.

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01 Apr 2005, 6:53 am

She offended me.

Anyway It's not like I was trying to be annoying by saying that, I guess it was the way I said it.

To me the decision to still post but just not be a moderator is a wise one.. not just leaving altogether. It seemed rather abrupt and upset some members and others felt responsible because it was implied that they were doing something wrong.



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01 Apr 2005, 7:00 am

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She has now decided to stay with us, but has stepped down as a moderator.


I'm glad to hear she's decided to stay, atleast :) .



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01 Apr 2005, 7:17 am

Getting back on topic, WrongPlanet.org is now open again, pending any further site changes.

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01 Apr 2005, 8:17 am

Concerning the Art and Poetry idea, I'd rather we use WrongPlanet.net to host art. We already do the poetry and writings at WP.net as well. WP.org isn't supposed to be a community site itself as much as an activism and awareness and fundraising site. Don't you agree dunc? WP.net IS ALREADY a community site for sharing and collaboration and I would really like to work on improving those aspects here instead of using a different site with the same functions to confuse others. But .org will still be useful as an activism and awareness site. WP.net doesn't incoroporate those aspects because some people are not comfortable with that but another site would be a different story.


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01 Apr 2005, 9:11 am

Mostly, Alex. I agree wholeheartedly that this IS a community site, and support totally extensions to that. An image gallery on WrongPlanet.net would be a great idea, I think we should do that - and we DO have writing and poetry sections for submissions already here to share with other WrongPlanet members - it would be good to start making good use of those as a community. 8)

To clarify a bit more what I intended, the gallery and sections for poetry, files and other creative endeavours on wrongplanet.org are meant for work as part of project development and discussion, which can include anything people want to post here as well. The gallery itself on wrongplanet.org will remain, primarily for that purpose, and I would be happy to host images to be linked to here in order to cut down on bandwidth usage for .net - that goes for other media files also.

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06 Apr 2005, 5:37 am

alex wrote:
Concerning the Art and Poetry idea, I'd rather we use WrongPlanet.net to host art. We already do the poetry and writings at WP.net as well. WP.org isn't supposed to be a community site itself as much as an activism and awareness and fundraising site. Don't you agree dunc? WP.net IS ALREADY a community site for sharing and collaboration and I would really like to work on improving those aspects here instead of using a different site with the same functions to confuse others. But .org will still be useful as an activism and awareness site. WP.net doesn't incoroporate those aspects because some people are not comfortable with that but another site would be a different story.


As someone who uses their Art to make an income, I am not prepared to be putting my Art on the internet unless it is for a specific reason other to showcase it. As they are Limited Edition Prints, I need to protect them and the investement of those who have already purchased my work.

I am however willing to bend on this if my work can be put towards a productive outcome. I aslo feel the same way with my poetry as I have intentions of publishing.

As WP.net is a community site, I have not felt that I wanted to put poetry here, and I would not as I said put my art on display for reasons only to showcase it. No offence meant to this site. I have not put them on any site other than my own until WP.org.

WP.org however has a direct goal and that is why I feel more comfortable with having them on that site.

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06 Apr 2005, 6:06 am

Basic direction for the org.- what to do with money raised.

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These are just suggestions for the direction I feel the wrongplanet.org could take, so if anyone can improve on them feel free. Lets get some ideas going here!


Money raised: once the cost of running the site (hosting, etc) are covered the rest of the money is put into a kitty. All people running the site do some on a voluntary basis (obviously this may change if it gets big and a lot of time is needed for the organisation, but I think that with a good team in place this won't be necessary). The rest of the money would be used for grants that people with AS can apply for for things that will help them improve their life in some way- e.g. help towards the cost of books for college, help towards a deposit so they can rent their own place, help towards the cost of getting an official dx, etc.
How these grants are actually awarded is something that we need to consider- to start with I think that applications could be looked at by a team of members who will decide how much we can afford to give applicants. These are only going to be small grants to start with, but I think that if we can help more people in small ways it will be better than aiming for the huge projects right away.



How to raise the money

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People can sell their art, writing, music, skills, etc through the site. When they sell something a % of the sale price (not including shipping) is paid to into the site fund- this will be a minimum of 10% but of a member wants to give more they can.
We can also have a donate button on site.

Also it might be worth looking into putting links to shopping sites up (like amazon does)- the ones where if people click on the link on here and then buy something from the other site a % of the sale is paid to the site.

Ebooks- we could offer cheap ebooks (or booklets) to members produced by other members, these would be a very reasonable price and I feel that members may be happy to donate these ebooks to the site for free (but we can look at these in individual terms). I would be happy to submit something for free for this.

As a 'bigger' project we could also look at producing a book to submit to publishers- perhaps those who were interested in taking part could write a chapter each on their experiences of life with AS.


Right- I think that's long enough- other comments and ideas please :D



And of course there is this thread that began it all

http://www.wrongplanet.net/modules.php? ... pic&t=1882

I would like others to start posting their views on this please. Be it for it or against it.

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08 Apr 2005, 3:09 am

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04 May 2005, 12:31 pm

Mel I'm really glad you decided to stay. I would have really missed you otherwise.

I think you are wonderful and I know how depression can make everyday events overwhelming.