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CockneyRebel
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23 Jul 2013, 10:46 pm

I don't wish to be cured, because I'm not damaged by autism. I have autistic traits, not symptoms. I suffer from people, not autism. I'd rather celebrate my autism, not sit in the corner waiting for a cure. A cure would imply that I'm broken and I need to be fixed. I'm not broken, I'm autistic and I don't need to be fixed, because I'm not damaged.


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24 Jul 2013, 12:12 am

Asperger's syndrome is the condition of being awesome, and having a brain that thinks things that actually make sense. If there was a cure, I would be completely against it.



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24 Jul 2013, 12:13 am

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I don't wish to be cured, because I'm not damaged by autism. I have autistic traits, not symptoms. I suffer from people, not autism. I'd rather celebrate my autism, not sit in the corner waiting for a cure. A cure would imply that I'm broken and I need to be fixed. I'm not broken, I'm autistic and I don't need to be fixed, because I'm not damaged.


I could not possibly agree more than I currently agree with what you have said here,


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24 Jul 2013, 10:43 am

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Is it wrong to not want a cure? Should I change this about myself in therapy? Am I alone on this? Am I really as bad as proana (Which in my opinion need help just as much as anorexics)?


No I dont think it's wrong to not want a cure. I think the focus is making our life better. If I can go stand in line more than 10 mins at the grocery store without feeling like I'm going to have a meltdown then my life has gotten better. I think that's the important part. But hey I admit I'm an odd duck :)



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24 Jul 2013, 10:47 am

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Yes, it is wrong to not want a cure! Ive had years of crap from NT's that started when i was 11 years old and its still going on today at 37, thats 26 years wasted. My life has been irrevocably damaged by AS so yeah i do want to be cured.


What if you'd been bullied for being gay, instead of being AS? Would you still want a cure then?



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24 Jul 2013, 11:36 am

Some gay people do want a cure. This is why they voluntarily enter gay conversion therapy.

It's a sad world that tells you that you are so wrong and bad that you have to change a fundamental part of who you are.


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24 Jul 2013, 12:31 pm

It's no more wrong or right for you not to want to be cured than it is for someone else to want to be. Everyone has their own opinions on it, and everyone has to make that decision for themselves, based on whats best for them. Although it's a moot point right now, one day it may not be.


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24 Jul 2013, 2:14 pm

Many folks here have expressed distaste for being 'cured'. Your not alone.

It aint gonna happen in our lifetime anyway so why waste time even pondering it?

Im of the woodstock generation, and so I am comfortable with the idea of mind altering drugs.

So in my perfect world there would an LSD type pill you could take to turn aspies into temporary NT's for eight hours, and another to do the opposite.

So if you're an aspie- you 'drop' a pill and- and you ace a job interview by having steady eye contact and flawless reading of social signals of the interviwer. Then it wears off. And you are your usual self again.

LIkewise if your NT you drop a pill - think about the college course you're takng while you start to go under. And then suddenly you develop a aspie obsession with that subject- and then lock yourself in your room studying the subject. Next day- you get an A on your term paper, or exam, even though youve returned to being the NT gum chewing valley girl or surfer dude you were before.



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28 Apr 2014, 11:01 pm

Is this a disease or a different wiring of the brain?
Should we allow the NT to determine this just because they outnumber us?
It's similar to the debates going on about sexual orientation and sexual identity.
For me, I wouldn't change. But my symptoms are not as severe.
Maybe I'm too pessimistic but I don’t believe there will ever be a cure.
I think we will get more acceptance and learn how to function in a way that is cohesive to all "wirings".



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28 Apr 2014, 11:41 pm

NT's who insist on neurological conformity are the ones with the problem. Voluntary segregation might not be a bad idea, if it were established that enough people had a visceral negative reaction to a group and refused to accommodate them.



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28 Apr 2014, 11:57 pm

I hope the OP reported the abusive message first of all.

Next personally I would love a cure.

If you don't want a cure or do it makes no difference as I am convinced therr never will be a cure.



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29 Apr 2014, 10:33 am

Well first of all there isn't a cure to begin with, so no chance of being given such a cure in the first place. As for treatment that can be helpful for some things. As for changing things about yourself in therapy it should be based on changes you want to make but I doubt trying to change that you have autism would really help anything.

I don't see not wanting your entire neurology re-wired as being just as bad as pro-ana....with anorexia its a disorder that can kill, so its cruel to have sites and such supporting and encouraging the whole not eating and starving ones self thing. Autism can cause some difficulties and all that but its the way our brains/neurology is wired....you aren't in danger of dying from autism so by wanting to remain autistic, thats not really encouraging anything harmful.

The person who said all that might not be a troll though, maybe they have been shamed a lot for having autism and feel like its their duty to be 'cured' if possible because the idea has been beaten into their head somehow.....or maybe they are a troll, or maybe they just think everyone should strive to be normal or else they are doing a dis-service to society. Either way I'd say they are wrong about what they said to you.


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29 Apr 2014, 10:36 am

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I think if stuff should be cured, it should be researched and happen when we are a child.

Its just to hard, if suddenly you could take something and suddenly be normal tomorrow. when you have spend your entire life like this.

I would have to do like 30 years of catchup. Would probably end up being worse.

I can only imagine the horror of not only being bad at interacting with other people, but losing the ability to be alone. then i would really have problems. because normal people go crazy from being alone. I might not be normal, but i sure wouldn wanna go crazy.

Just because we are cured, we wouldn gain all that we havent learned in all those years.

reminds me of hearing about a story about a blind person, who suddenly gained sight. i think that person comitted suicide, because the person couldn handle and didn understand and handle the input of the eyes.

I could easily imagine something simular would be the case here.


That is somewhat how I feel about it....though I am on the spectrum and being alone too long is not something I enjoy, I could see it driving me crazy. So its not just normal people who'd go crazy from that.


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29 Apr 2014, 10:41 am

Callista wrote:
Some gay people do want a cure. This is why they voluntarily enter gay conversion therapy.

It's a sad world that tells you that you are so wrong and bad that you have to change a fundamental part of who you are.



I am willing to bet in post cases its due to pressure from others and having it beat into them that there is something 'wrong' with them for being gay. Also though perhaps some gay people do willingly enter that sort of 'therapy' but from my understanding haven't parents forced their kids into such programs and such? Also this type of conversion therapy from what I hear is usually always harmful in a number of ways...and can contribute to anxiety and depression problems as well as self loathing feelings.


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29 Apr 2014, 10:44 am

I don't believe in a cure; I believe in an alleviation of negative symptoms (e.g., self-harm).



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29 Apr 2014, 10:45 am

naturalplastic wrote:
Many folks here have expressed distaste for being 'cured'. Your not alone.

It aint gonna happen in our lifetime anyway so why waste time even pondering it?

Im of the woodstock generation, and so I am comfortable with the idea of mind altering drugs.

So in my perfect world there would an LSD type pill you could take to turn aspies into temporary NT's for eight hours, and another to do the opposite.

So if you're an aspie- you 'drop' a pill and- and you ace a job interview by having steady eye contact and flawless reading of social signals of the interviwer. Then it wears off. And you are your usual self again.

LIkewise if your NT you drop a pill - think about the college course you're takng while you start to go under. And then suddenly you develop a aspie obsession with that subject- and then lock yourself in your room studying the subject. Next day- you get an A on your term paper, or exam, even though youve returned to being the NT gum chewing valley girl or surfer dude you were before.


Hmmm, well if it had the same effects as LSD I doubt it would make autistic people 'normal' for any amount of time. I've taken acid and it didn't make me feel 'neurotypical'. Lol but if there was a mind altering drug that could temporarily make me think/feel like a neurotypical I might be curious to try it, but no idea if I'd like it or not. As for the job interview thing....well that would be all good and fine, but what about when it wears off and eventually you're unusualness starts showing and the employer doesn't like that?


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