Page 2 of 2 [ 20 posts ]  Go to page Previous  1, 2

Threore
Pileated woodpecker
Pileated woodpecker

User avatar

Joined: 18 Oct 2012
Age: 55
Gender: Male
Posts: 176

12 Nov 2013, 3:43 pm

I have a few points:

- In a large set, if a small portion is different from the rest, that small portion is considered abnormal on account of it being small. We ASDs are a relatively small portion of all of humanity, therefore we are the disorder. Normal is defined by the majority, by definition.
- There are many people who have flawed reasoning and logic. While autistics may be less misled by emotional fallacies, and be more interested in science than average people are, I've seen no evidence for an inherently more scientific/skeptical/logical way of thinking.
- Cooking of course causes many chemical reactions in food. What else would cause the change in colour and taste?
- Saying NTs have the disorder and not us seems to have very few practical consequences, so why bother with such semantics? Regardless of who has what, they're the majority we'll have to work with.



Asperger96
Veteran
Veteran

User avatar

Joined: 14 Jul 2013
Age: 28
Gender: Male
Posts: 703
Location: Central Maryland

12 Nov 2013, 3:45 pm

Threore wrote:
I have a few points:

- In a large set, if a small portion is different from the rest, that small portion is considered abnormal on account of it being small. We ASDs are a relatively small portion of all of humanity, therefore we are the disorder. Normal is defined by the majority, by definition.
- There are many people who have flawed reasoning and logic. While autistics may be less misled by emotional fallacies, and be more interested in science than average people are, I've seen no evidence for an inherently more scientific/skeptical/logical way of thinking.
- Cooking of course causes many chemical reactions in food. What else would cause the change in colour and taste?
- Saying NTs have the disorder and not us seems to have very few practical consequences, so why bother with such semantics? Regardless of who has what, they're the majority we'll have to work with.


Majority Rules, Minority Rights

By which I mean the Majority Rules the Rights of the Minorities, for good or bad



Threore
Pileated woodpecker
Pileated woodpecker

User avatar

Joined: 18 Oct 2012
Age: 55
Gender: Male
Posts: 176

12 Nov 2013, 3:55 pm

Asperger96 wrote:
Majority Rules, Minority Rights

By which I mean the Majority Rules the Rights of the Minorities, for good or bad


Unless of course you're the wealthy/powerful minority. They do define what is normal though, which is perhaps even more influential.



Shikari
Veteran
Veteran

User avatar

Joined: 20 Mar 2013
Gender: Female
Posts: 5,378

12 Nov 2013, 4:04 pm

unemployedwithphd wrote:
I think that Neurotypicals are the ones with the disorder. They are slow or disabled when it comes to using logic, they make impulsive illogical decisions, they are "know it alls" they are close minded, they believe what they read even if the author gives no information on his sources of information. Neurotypicals don't respect those with different opinions. They take criticism of their opinions as though it were a personal attack. They can't tell the difference between fact, opinion and theory. They are as attached to some of their opinions as they are to their dogs. They tend to jump to concusions even if their data set is too small to be statistically significant. They do not understand that a correlation alone does not necessarily mean a causal relationship. They do not understand that large numbers are meaningless unless taken in context. They key to navegating through a world dominated by those with ND is to understand them and treat them accordingly. Many therapists and researchers with ND think that those with AS lack empathy because they are self-absorbed. This is not true Those of us without ND have difficulty with empathy because we do not understand those with ND

:roll: