Observer feeling: symptom of ASD or Coping mechanism?

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Is Observer-ness a symptom of ASD or is it coping-mechanism related
Purely a symptom of ASD 60%  60%  [ 12 ]
Purely a side-effect of coping mechanisms 5%  5%  [ 1 ]
It's a coping mechanism in an of itself 5%  5%  [ 1 ]
A bit of each 30%  30%  [ 6 ]
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18 Nov 2013, 11:51 am

Willard wrote:
I think it's a symptom of the heightened sensory sensitivity. All the sensory data is coming in at the same 'noise' level and I'm trying to decipher and decode it all and navigate at the same time.


I'm not sure I follow you. Can you elaborate on how having too much information coming in with all of it being as 'important' as everything else then leads to being separated from your body's experiences?
I think I understood what the rest of your post was saying, but maybe I didn't if you thought that that WAS elaboration about this...


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02 Dec 2013, 11:57 pm

I have extremely deep and strong emotions, especially love. And after I consciously make the choice to commit to love someone, that is forever, whatever happens. Sometimes that is not so fun.

I am by no means a genius. I have noticed that it seems, in general, that the more emotionally detached also tend to be the more highly intelligent. This has me asking the age old question; which came first, the chicken or the egg? I mean, are more intelligent autists wired to be more emotionally detached? Or, using their high IQ were they able to suppress emotions? Or [slightly different question] along with their high IQs' were they also born with EXTREME emotions [more than lower IQ autists or NTs'] but had no choice but to suppress them in order to survive?

Or, am I totally off base?



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03 Dec 2013, 11:51 am

Interesting questions Vicky, ones which, to me, mean you're pretty intelligent. I think you also explained them really well too, made it easy to understand.

Let me add my own thoughts to what you've said.
I'm not sure your basic observation's correct though, that more intelligence often means less emotion.
That said, I do think that emotions can 'get in the way' in a sense of truly taking a step back and being on observer though, which can make a huge difference in understanding/deducing the 'softer' aspects of the world, like culture, morals, philosophy, etc. Like, having a strong sense of self often goes with a strong sense of self-preservation, and so that sort of person will knowingly, but more often unknowingly, take steps to avoid cognitive dissonance. This can lead to stubbornness and inability to change one's opinion even if the opinion is wrong and inaccurate in some way. Does this mean that a stubborn person isn't as intelligent?
Another aspect is simply how we measure and view intelligence. The person who's highly skilled in one area we will often think of as very smart. We also think of someone who has a keen interest in science or math or technology as being very smart. But this doesn't necessarily make them more intelligent than someone else. In order to be highly skilled in an area, it always means someone spends a lot of time with that subject or skill. Fields of study are emotionless (even someone who studies emotion must detach themselves from it). But most emotions are mired in being with other people. Anyone who devotes a lot of time to a skill or field of study, those who we think of as most intelligent, put socializing second to their hobby, and so may seem (or I suppose in a sense are) more emotionless as they might put things like family and friends and lovers, second. One crowds out the other. But this doesn't mean that the person's emotions don't or can't run as deeply as a stupider or non-intelligent person's.


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