I feel sorry for all the sad members on here.

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"Feel sorry"... I dunno, it's not really like that. It's more like, I want to fix it, I want to make it better, I want to say just the right thing so that their problems will get solved. I don't want anyone, ever, to be unhappy.

Except that's not realistic. I mean, I"ve been there, and I'll probably be there again. I have "recurrent depression" on my record for a reason. And I know that when things are like that, people can't really fix it just like that, no matter how much they want to.

On the other hand, I also know from having survived depression that it is possible to survive. So maybe that makes me feel a little more hopeful about it. It is surprising how strong people can be when they have to be.

I just learned something very positive and I wanted to share it. After all this time, I finally realize that nothing like material possessions, wealth, status or political power can make happiness because true happiness is supposed to come from within. It feels like part of me was freed of a dark prison of political, status or material worries. Granted, I acknowledge happiness does set you up for some good things in this materialistic world, but it doesn't work the other way around. And there's optimism too, but happiness and optimism may be the same thing.

Well, I definitely appreciate you wanting to share that. Thank you.

I completely understand the sentiment... but you probably should have worded the title of the thread a little bit differently. "A Message to People Struggling with Sadness" or something.... I'll be honest, I almost didn't click into the thread when I saw the name and assumed it was some non-autistic troll posting to WP.

Lupa Luna you are my hero. I think I might read over those lyrics the next time I feel depressed.

The problem with the OP's statement is it's just so short that it's open up for interpretation in at least 1000 ways.

I tend to not take what's said too personally. No single person can understand what hundreds of others or more go through.

To be honest I don't know what sadness is without depression. It seems it if I experienced a bit of sadness it makes my whole mood and outlook on life go down. That is my bipolar and I think without it I would not be depressed. It's very hard to fight those feelings. Sometimes you just need to let them be, run their course and then experience another few days or weeks in a positive mood.

However, there are certain times of the day when I can't write as much as I want or even explain myself properly so if the OP went through a similar thing I understand.

Everyone overcomes or at least deals with their depression in their own way. It's their own journey. If only it was so simple to work towards overcoming it after hearing a few encouraging words.

I thought the same too about the condescending part. I had doubts he was trying to be that way and his only attempt was to give us advice so we can all be happy like he had learned to do and he wanted to share it with us.

I have been of the belief that those things don't bring happiness for a long time but no one ever listens to me. I hope you have better luck than I do. Now i have misery because I feel like the only person alive with my particular belief system.

Except for you, who apparently has part of it. The other part has to do with cultural belief systems not actually being the true nature of reality. They are actually just what they are..a belief system, not some great truth about anything at all really (most of the time) such as the concept of worthlessness really. It's silly but if I say that I am being offensive.

Ie worthless in what way? Compared to what? Based on what criteria? Evidence? Who defined said criteria? The person? Society? How do we know said criteria is reliable? Because they believe it? Really? I could believe in aliens that does not make them real...
Oh, society can't be wrong? Are people sure? Society has never been ignorant? Society isn't obsessed with money, power and status and does not want to use that obsession as a way of manipulating people...worthlessness is the underlying belief that keeps consumerism and the seeking of power and status going. After all you are not worth anything without them are you? You need these things don't you to be worthy human being?

Um....no.

And so on.

I just wanted to spend my life pursuing the things I am passionate about. I care little for status or power or even having excessive money (although I do need some money to live on and so I can afford some of the things I am passionate about). I wanted to explore and learn and I wanted a companion to join me on my travels through life so that we can create happy memories and share much intimacy together, whilst still giving each other time and space to be our individual selves.

I am lacking the companion part of things and society keeps trying to drag me into its fold whereas I keep trying to run away from it (it's why I am gradually dropping things like my sky tv subscription and don't have gadgets like Ipads and fancy mobile phones...I want a slightly more natural existence outside of the mainstream, in the country but with a few useful mod cons to make life a bit easier for me...I still have the internet, a tv for dvd and freeview viewing, a washing machine and a digital piano due to not having funds or room for a baby grand for example). Other than that I don't own much material wise. I got rid of a lot of it...it didn't make me happy.

Edited to add: Excluding my hobby collections. I still have those but the are not materialistically valuable as they mostly consist of jigsaw puzzles, arts and crafts (needle crafts) supplies, books (non of which are rare or antique), metal fairy statues and my piano, which is about the most valuable item and that was on the cheap end of the range (think a couple of hundred pounds not thousands) anyway.

The house feels much less cluttered though. Which is a nice feeling. I don't like clutter.

If people come in they seem to feel sorry for me as I don't have a lot and because my TV is only a small one. Um I got rid of a lot of my stuff because I don't want an overly complicated life and I don't need a bigger telly than the one that I have. I also don't want a 3D set, I can't see 3D because of my convergence insufficiency anyway (I don't always get binocular vision and viewing 3D movies makes me feel sick, gives me a bad migraine and results in my getting double vision for several days..I will pass on the 3D trend thank you).

I wish people would stop pitying me and actually give me a fair chance to see if they like me as a person instead. I find pity offensive. Especially when they pity me for something that was MY choice.

People: If you are too lazy to flip on your happy switch, or you don't know where it's located, you only have yourself to blame.

Sadness and happiness are normal human emotions that need to be expressed at the appropriate times.

It's definitely not a matter of being lazy. Perhaps some don't know where it is, that could be true but it's a bit harsh to say something like this. Maybe you have never experienced an episode of real depression. If you had I doubt you would say this.

I'd like to thank you for the encouragement that you were giving us last night and I also apologize for my wise crack. I've been redirecting my thoughts to happy thoughts recently. I'm also not making fun of you either, because I don't believe in hurting people. I was making fun of myself last night.

Emotions seem to be odd things and now I wonder, with the way people talk about being happy or sad as though it's a very generalised thing, if others experience the same as I do.

I can be happy about one thing, but feel sadness over a different thing simultaneously.

So I may think about my loneliness and feel sad, yet at the same time I can think about playing piano and feel joy/happiness.

Do others just have one mood that is a constant state of mind? Because my emotions are more complex than that.

Although I'm usually always optimistic I never knew I had a happy switch I wish I could find it to fix the much of the time I don't even know what I'm feeling . I usually can't tell have had a cold or a virus or I feel sad, tired, scared worried or just bloated and on my "monthly visiter".But im not sad most of the time so doesn't matter.

If I can invent something it would be a real happy switch and feeling detector to find out how your feeling why you're feeling that way and I could do about it besides just turning on your happy switch.

Okay happy Switch would be a good last resort actually think the majority of people would just skip the last 2 parts of the feeling detector and just turn on the happy switch but I don't mind that much because I would probably end up doing that myself anyway.

But I'm a serious note I was all the people are depressed to be able to feel better. I don't know how to make you feel better but I just hope one day you will be happy again. My advice to you with even though I might be really hard just keep trying to do something to make you happy don't give up even when things seem like that they're worse as I said I hope it will get better.

Actually I have been there myself but I don't really like to talk about that . I haven't exactly been clinically depressed (well I was diagnosed with adjustment disorder but that's a different story).

But I had a time I felt very sad because of being very badly bullied and well a lot of bad stuff happened . My Suggestion to find an outlet where you could talk about your feelings like drawing, writing,singing or making videos. But the most important thing for me to find someone who will listen and will always be there to comfort you and talk about your problems and not make you feel worse. Like the people here on wrong planet there are some great people to talk to you basically like a whole giant support group.

Mine is broken, along with my thinking cap.

I don't really want to feel happy all the time. I just wouldn't feel balanced if I was. I've experienced excessive happiness before and it is not fun. When I experience excessive happiness I feel like I'm losing touch with reality. I keep on trying to ground myself and I can't. Eventually I do go back to my normal mood and it feels horrible. It's way worse than feeling sad or depressed. I'd rather be depressed than excessively happy.

I would be happy if someone could explain to me what happiness is? I might have had a few occasional times in my life when I felt happy about something, but other than that, I've forgotten what happiness is. I see other people around me being happy because good things are happening to them, but me, I don't know what the feeling of happiness is. I need something good to happen to me in order to be happy. I have tried to feel this happiness, but each time I try, something always comes along to knock me back and make me feel sad again.