Do people think you are negative and/or pessimistic?

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30 Jan 2014, 12:30 pm

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30 Jan 2014, 12:41 pm

No, I am positive and optimistic. I have always been.


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30 Jan 2014, 12:55 pm

People have told me over the years that I am negative. When I was a teen, I was told "you're too young to be so negative."


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30 Jan 2014, 12:58 pm

Temple Grandin definitely isn't pessimistic. It's well known that she considers autism to be a 'challenge' rather than a 'life-sentence', and that alone says a lot about her look on life.


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30 Jan 2014, 12:59 pm

Norny wrote:
Temple Grandin definitely isn't pessimistic. It's well known that she considers autism to be a 'challenge' rather than a 'life-sentence', and that alone says a lot about her look on life.


Could be why some of us feel like failures, while we feel that she was a success in life.



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30 Jan 2014, 1:30 pm

b_edward wrote:
Norny wrote:
Temple Grandin definitely isn't pessimistic. It's well known that she considers autism to be a 'challenge' rather than a 'life-sentence', and that alone says a lot about her look on life.


Could be why some of us feel like failures, while we feel that she was a success in life.


and it could also just be yet more evidence of living in a society where 1% of anyone of any type succeeds at anything and everyone else eats dirt

there I am being a realist (or is it pessimism?)


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30 Jan 2014, 1:39 pm

GivePeaceAChance wrote:
b_edward wrote:
Norny wrote:
Temple Grandin definitely isn't pessimistic. It's well known that she considers autism to be a 'challenge' rather than a 'life-sentence', and that alone says a lot about her look on life.


Could be why some of us feel like failures, while we feel that she was a success in life.


and it could also just be yet more evidence of living in a society where 1% of anyone of any type succeeds at anything and everyone else eats dirt

there I am being a realist (or is it pessimism?)


I did a quick definition check of 'realism' in Google and it reads: 'The attitude or practice of accepting a situation as it is and being prepared to deal with it accordingly.'

A second Google definition reads: 'The quality or fact of representing a person or thing in a way that is accurate and true to life.'

So if you use those, it would seem that your comment is more pessimistic than realistic. It could be called pessimistic realism, but to me I see it as more pessimistic mostly because of your use of words and how you structured it - 'Everyone else eats dirt', 'There I am being a realist' (There is a sharp and strong way to start a new sentence, as if proclaiming something). In addition to that, society wouldn't function if only 1% were successful. There isn't any evidence to back up such a claim anyway, so I don't really see how it could be referred to as being a realist.


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30 Jan 2014, 1:40 pm

Just remember though -- Every glass is always completely full.

Unless you are in space or in a lab-created vacuum, etc.



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30 Jan 2014, 1:41 pm

b_edward wrote:
Just remember though -- Every glass is always completely full.

Unless you are in space or in a lab-created vacuum, etc.


That takes realism to a whole new level. =P


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30 Jan 2014, 1:56 pm

Norny wrote:
GivePeaceAChance wrote:
b_edward wrote:
Norny wrote:
Temple Grandin definitely isn't pessimistic. It's well known that she considers autism to be a 'challenge' rather than a 'life-sentence', and that alone says a lot about her look on life.


Could be why some of us feel like failures, while we feel that she was a success in life.


and it could also just be yet more evidence of living in a society where 1% of anyone of any type succeeds at anything and everyone else eats dirt

there I am being a realist (or is it pessimism?)


I did a quick definition check of 'realism' in Google and it reads: 'The attitude or practice of accepting a situation as it is and being prepared to deal with it accordingly.'

A second Google definition reads: 'The quality or fact of representing a person or thing in a way that is accurate and true to life.'

So if you use those, it would seem that your comment is more pessimistic than realistic. It could be called pessimistic realism, but to me I see it as more pessimistic mostly because of your use of words and how you structured it - 'Everyone else eats dirt', 'There I am being a realist' (There is a sharp and strong way to start a new sentence, as if proclaiming something). In addition to that, society wouldn't function if only 1% were successful. There isn't any evidence to back up such a claim anyway, so I don't really see how it could be referred to as being a realist.



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30 Jan 2014, 1:57 pm

To me, positive and optimistic doesn't mean thinking that eberrything will always go well. It's more like lemme try things and figure things out and go for things without having a lot negative thoughts stopping me from doing so.


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30 Jan 2014, 2:04 pm

GivePeaceAChance wrote:
gimme a break


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Give you a break from what? You write as if I have being attacking you, and if I have come across that way then I am sorry. I don't understand why you copied the definition of metaphor here. If you are referring to my bolding of dirt, I know people don't literally eat dirt, but it is a strong word to use.. it is as if you are saying that everyone lives like someone in a third world country, which in America is most certainly not the case.

If I'm wrong in this interpretation, again, I'm sorry, but please don't take offense so easily. You asked 'or is it pessimism?' to which I assumed to you were seriously wanting an answer. Looking back on it, perhaps you were speaking rhetorically in order to point out a nature in me that may appear condescending or something like that.. I don't know. This is a forum that has a lot of people that struggle in the area of communication after all.


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30 Jan 2014, 2:20 pm

Norny wrote:
GivePeaceAChance wrote:
gimme a break


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Give you a break from what? You write as if I have being attacking you, and if I have come across that way then I am sorry. I don't understand why you copied the definition of metaphor here. If you are referring to my bolding of dirt, I know people don't literally eat dirt, but it is a strong word to use.. it is as if you are saying that everyone lives like someone in a third world country, which in America is most certainly not the case.

If I'm wrong in this interpretation, again, I'm sorry, but please don't take offense so easily. You asked 'or is it pessimism?' to which I assumed to you were seriously wanting an answer. Looking back on it, perhaps you were speaking rhetorically in order to point out a nature in me that may appear condescending or something like that.. I don't know. This is a forum that has a lot of people that struggle in the area of communication after all.


I was speaking rhetorically, I still think of it as realism, I know I am better off than if I lived in Africa, even though I am in the bottom 1% of the US it puts me above over 15% of the population of the planet

even though my property was stolen by some rich banker and I ended up homeless I had clean water by stealing it from peoples hoses, people in many areas of the world don't have access to that


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30 Jan 2014, 2:35 pm

Most people think I'm negative. I prefer 'ambivalent'.



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30 Jan 2014, 3:14 pm

One word: YES.



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30 Jan 2014, 3:17 pm

People tell me all the time that I express negativity and I HATE IT! :evil:


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