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07 Feb 2014, 11:30 pm

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I'm very jealous of people like that. Well, my sister did seem to be generally good at everything she tried like dance, costume making and sewing, drawing ect. She just picks skills up quickly and easily and I can't think of anything she's particularly bad at doing. She has personality flaws just like everyone else but I can't think of an actual skill she just found really difficult or impossible to acquire.

the thing to remember is that just as there will always be people greater than us, we also are greater than other people, but we don't notice the people we are greater than, we only notice the ones that are greater than us. I wonder why that is?



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07 Feb 2014, 11:42 pm

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I'm very jealous of people like that. Well, my sister did seem to be generally good at everything she tried like dance, costume making and sewing, drawing ect. She just picks skills up quickly and easily and I can't think of anything she's particularly bad at doing. She has personality flaws just like everyone else but I can't think of an actual skill she just found really difficult or impossible to acquire.

the thing to remember is that just as there will always be people greater than us, we also are greater than other people, but we don't notice the people we are greater than, we only notice the ones that are greater than us. I wonder why that is?


Yeah, that's true. We tend to make more upward comparisons that make ourselves look bad, I guess.

I'm pretty sure there was a study which showed that people prone to depression are more likely to make upward and not downward comparisons. This is something we discussed in my undergraduate introduction to psychology class but I can't remember the details of it. I guess we're just negative thinkers.



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07 Feb 2014, 11:43 pm

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Yeah, that's true. We tend to make more upward comparisons that make ourselves look bad, I guess. I'm pretty sure there was a study which showed that people prone to depression are more likely to make upward and not downward comparisons. This is something we discussed in my undergraduate introduction to psychology class but I can't remember the details of it.


gosh, it has been so many decades since I last was in a psychology classroom. :oops:



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07 Feb 2014, 11:50 pm

^^^
:) It has something to do with negative thinking and lack of confidence. I can't seem to get the hang of that whole positive thinking thing.

We're derailing the thread though, I'm way off topic now, sorry. :oops:



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08 Feb 2014, 12:04 am

it is all I can do to avoid negative thoughts, thinking "positive" is still a ways beyond my ken. anyways, to improve my multitasking, in the manner of strengthening a muscle [in this case the brain muscle] several years back I obtained a gulbransen "theatrum" [what a name!] home electronic organ, and started practicing playing a counterpoint of "sailor's hornpipe" on the solo manual, "twinkle twinkle little star" on the accompaniment manual, and "mary had a little lamb" on the bass pedals. I have not [so far] despite several years of practice managed to exceed the capabilities of the average 8 year old at this task. anyways, I got the idea for this from having watched organist cliff lenz perform this on the flentrop organ at st. mark's cathedral in seattle.



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08 Feb 2014, 1:21 am

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it is all I can do to avoid negative thoughts, thinking "positive" is still a ways beyond my ken. anyways, to improve my multitasking, in the manner of strengthening a muscle [in this case the brain muscle] several years back I obtained a gulbransen "theatrum" [what a name!] home electronic organ, and started practicing playing a counterpoint of "sailor's hornpipe" on the solo manual, "twinkle twinkle little star" on the accompaniment manual, and "mary had a little lamb" on the bass pedals. I have not [so far] despite several years of practice managed to exceed the capabilities of the average 8 year old at this task. anyways, I got the idea for this from having watched organist cliff lenz perform this on the flentrop organ at st. mark's cathedral in seattle.


Interesting, I've actually been thinking of learning to play an instrument though as a child I had piano lessons and did quit during my first year, in grade one. I had NO natural talent for it whatsoever , despite the fact that my dad and my sister are both musically inclined. My dad even composes music. Anyway, I wasn't very interested at the time and didn't put any effort into it so I was thinking of trying again as an adult. It seems like something that would be good for the brain and also a life experience that I didn't want to miss out on, learning to play music. I do think it's something I would struggle with as well as I have and always had problems with rhythm and timing in general, let alone multi-tasking. For a few years I took dance lessons with my sister and wanted to be a prima ballerina or professional jazz dancer and was obsessed with dancing but I sucked at it because of poor rhythm and timing and did not get past the second level- the first level was for preschoolers, I think. I got very good at doing some of the individual moves and got very flexible but I always lacked the rhythm and co-ordination.



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08 Feb 2014, 1:59 am

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Interesting, I've actually been thinking of learning to play an instrument though as a child I had piano lessons and did quit during my first year, in grade one. I had NO natural talent for it whatsoever , despite the fact that my dad and my sister are both musically inclined. My dad even composes music. Anyway, I wasn't very interested at the time and didn't put any effort into it so I was thinking of trying again as an adult. It seems like something that would be good for the brain and also a life experience that I didn't want to miss out on, learning to play music. I do think it's something I would struggle with as well as I have and always had problems with rhythm and timing in general, let alone multi-tasking. For a few years I took dance lessons with my sister and wanted to be a prima ballerina or professional jazz dancer and was obsessed with dancing but I sucked at it because of poor rhythm and timing and did not get past the second level- the first level was for preschoolers, I think. I got very good at doing some of the individual moves and got very flexible but I always lacked the rhythm and co-ordination.

other than perfect pitch, I've no natural music talent in any way which manifests as being able to perform music. but I've always loved organs ever since I was a little kid, my mother told me as soon as we'd enter a department store [back in the day] I'd make a beeline for the organs, back then when they were still being sold to people. something about those multicolored stop tabs that when you flipped 'em made a neat "FLUP!" sound, the deep bass from the pedals, the tinkling of the faux-celeste and chimes, all that is something which attracts me to this day. so the organ was a natural for me to want to use as multitasking therapy, as it were.



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08 Feb 2014, 5:16 am

I can multitask pretty good, but usually im so totally absorbed in what im doing i might not notice if my room was going up in flames.



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08 Feb 2014, 6:04 am

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auntblabby wrote:
it is all I can do to avoid negative thoughts, thinking "positive" is still a ways beyond my ken. anyways, to improve my multitasking, in the manner of strengthening a muscle [in this case the brain muscle] several years back I obtained a gulbransen "theatrum" [what a name!] home electronic organ, and started practicing playing a counterpoint of "sailor's hornpipe" on the solo manual, "twinkle twinkle little star" on the accompaniment manual, and "mary had a little lamb" on the bass pedals. I have not [so far] despite several years of practice managed to exceed the capabilities of the average 8 year old at this task. anyways, I got the idea for this from having watched organist cliff lenz perform this on the flentrop organ at st. mark's cathedral in seattle.


Interesting, I've actually been thinking of learning to play an instrument though as a child I had piano lessons and did quit during my first year, in grade one. I had NO natural talent for it whatsoever , despite the fact that my dad and my sister are both musically inclined. My dad even composes music. Anyway, I wasn't very interested at the time and didn't put any effort into it so I was thinking of trying again as an adult. It seems like something that would be good for the brain and also a life experience that I didn't want to miss out on, learning to play music. I do think it's something I would struggle with as well as I have and always had problems with rhythm and timing in general, let alone multi-tasking. For a few years I took dance lessons with my sister and wanted to be a prima ballerina or professional jazz dancer and was obsessed with dancing but I sucked at it because of poor rhythm and timing and did not get past the second level- the first level was for preschoolers, I think. I got very good at doing some of the individual moves and got very flexible but I always lacked the rhythm and co-ordination.


I am learning piano. I always wanted to learn as a kid and could play a little bit by ear (basic stuff) but could never afford lessons so I never got into it properly back then. I also wanted dance classes, but after a few tap dance lessons, I opted for horse riding instead. I had my own pony for a while. He was called Flash.

I'd like to go back to tap dancing classes again actually...I can't remember if I was any good at it.

When it comes to piano, I have few problems with the playing side, its the reading the music bit I struggle with at the moment.

I am still mostly playing piano by ear, as I am still learning to read music (the convergence insufficiency I have in regards to my eyesight sometimes makes it hard for me to follow written music as fast as I need to so I tend to prefer to memorise or just play by ear most of the time). I am sure I will get there eventually.



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08 Feb 2014, 1:37 pm

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Yeah, reading music was hard for me as a kid, I think. You have to put in a lot of effort and practice, learn a new skill. I didn't do that as a kid because I just wasn't that interested. My dad learned to play by ear but I don't think I have that talent.



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08 Feb 2014, 1:41 pm

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Interesting, I've actually been thinking of learning to play an instrument though as a child I had piano lessons and did quit during my first year, in grade one. I had NO natural talent for it whatsoever , despite the fact that my dad and my sister are both musically inclined. My dad even composes music. Anyway, I wasn't very interested at the time and didn't put any effort into it so I was thinking of trying again as an adult. It seems like something that would be good for the brain and also a life experience that I didn't want to miss out on, learning to play music. I do think it's something I would struggle with as well as I have and always had problems with rhythm and timing in general, let alone multi-tasking. For a few years I took dance lessons with my sister and wanted to be a prima ballerina or professional jazz dancer and was obsessed with dancing but I sucked at it because of poor rhythm and timing and did not get past the second level- the first level was for preschoolers, I think. I got very good at doing some of the individual moves and got very flexible but I always lacked the rhythm and co-ordination.

other than perfect pitch, I've no natural music talent in any way which manifests as being able to perform music. but I've always loved organs ever since I was a little kid, my mother told me as soon as we'd enter a department store [back in the day] I'd make a beeline for the organs, back then when they were still being sold to people. something about those multicolored stop tabs that when you flipped 'em made a neat "FLUP!" sound, the deep bass from the pedals, the tinkling of the faux-celeste and chimes, all that is something which attracts me to this day. so the organ was a natural for me to want to use as multitasking therapy, as it were.


It's so cool that you have perfect pitch. Playing the organ is the fulfilment of a childhood dream, then. I think that makes it worth doing whether or not you become really good at it or it actually helps you develop skills like multi-tasking. As long as you enjoy it you should keep on playing.



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08 Feb 2014, 1:45 pm

I cannot multitask.

I have tried to but I just get in a muddle.


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08 Feb 2014, 2:06 pm

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Yeah, reading music was hard for me as a kid, I think. You have to put in a lot of effort and practice, learn a new skill. I didn't do that as a kid because I just wasn't that interested. My dad learned to play by ear but I don't think I have that talent.

I'm horrible at reading music. I'm still trying to improve, but it's nearly impossible. :wall: Now that I'm mostly playing accordion people don't expect me to read music as much.


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08 Feb 2014, 3:33 pm

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Yeah, reading music was hard for me as a kid, I think. You have to put in a lot of effort and practice, learn a new skill. I didn't do that as a kid because I just wasn't that interested. My dad learned to play by ear but I don't think I have that talent.

I'm horrible at reading music. I'm still trying to improve, but it's nearly impossible. :wall: Now that I'm mostly playing accordion people don't expect me to read music as much.

I can nominally read music but I cannot sightread [play it as I read it] to save my life. my brain refuses to work that quickly.



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08 Feb 2014, 6:17 pm

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Yeah, reading music was hard for me as a kid, I think. You have to put in a lot of effort and practice, learn a new skill. I didn't do that as a kid because I just wasn't that interested. My dad learned to play by ear but I don't think I have that talent.

I'm horrible at reading music. I'm still trying to improve, but it's nearly impossible. :wall: Now that I'm mostly playing accordion people don't expect me to read music as much.

I can nominally read music but I cannot sightread [play it as I read it] to save my life. my brain refuses to work that quickly.

I can do sight reading if the notes are right next to each other.


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08 Feb 2014, 6:19 pm

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I can do sight reading if the notes are right next to each other.

that is talent :wtg: that I wished I had.