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12 Feb 2014, 5:17 am

Yes it is discussing that people get refused life-saving drugs here.


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12 Feb 2014, 6:24 am

I very rarely go to see my doctor, but he's ok. He's quite informal to be honest.

Actually, I don't think he really gives a s**t.


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12 Feb 2014, 3:21 pm

To clarify: I average around a six pack every night. I also have high blood pressure which gave me a stroke about 3 years ago. I can see what the doctor's doing. She's stepping in to "save me" like a guardian, that's what I'm guessing.



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12 Feb 2014, 11:32 pm

I trust no one, but I will allow a doctor certain privileges.



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12 Feb 2014, 11:34 pm

I don't trust anyone.



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13 Feb 2014, 2:44 am

i seem to grant people trust them revoke it if they prove unworthy, but i don't grant them 100% trust because there's alot of stuff about me that is just secret and it's best as few people are possible knows. Paranoia is never few very far outside my mind.

i don't see my doctor much, i trust them strictly with stuff related to my health, i leave the rest of it out.

i trust my therapist maybe 90%. that's touching a few secrets but I keep the disturbing stuff out of there. I'm still paranoid that if i say the wrong thing she'll think i'm a danger to other people and whe nthe appointment is over there'll be people wit ha straitjacket waiting for me outside.
i trust my psychiatrist about 90.25% probably because he's also a gun owner so he gains 0.25% trust over my therapist.



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13 Feb 2014, 2:54 am

I saw my doctor today. It's what I suspected. She really believes I have the type of body that alcohol, no matter how much it is, raises my blood pressure to dangerous levels. In essence I couldn't finagle my way out of going to rehab which I'll start next week. I'm trying not to look like a loser here. It's just that it's hard to think that, after, 40+ years of drinking, it's actually not good for me.



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13 Feb 2014, 8:34 am

redrobin62 wrote:
I'm just so angry that my doctor would think I need intensive outpatient treatment. I have a meeting with her tomorrow but I doubt she'll change her mind. She's kinda like that - very set in her ways. I could change my doctors but the damage has already been done. What's in stone stays in stone. What do I do now instead of drinking? Smoking cigarettes? Chewing gum? Playing crossword puzzles? Going for long walks on a cold winter's night? Maybe I should take up snowboarding and learn the half pipe. That should keep me busy.


redrobin62 wrote:
To clarify: I average around a six pack every night. I also have high blood pressure which gave me a stroke about 3 years ago. I can see what the doctor's doing. She's stepping in to "save me" like a guardian, that's what I'm guessing.


Well, it sounds like her concerns might be justified, but the way she went about it bothers me greatly. She didn't really discussed it with you or at least offered the option of giving it up on your own, just made the decision for you, taking advantage of the fact that you're barely in any position to oppose it. That's wrong in so many ways and doing it "for your own good" is a very poor and self-righteous excuse.

On the other hand, since you can't do much about it, try to relax, who knows, you might actually feel better without the beer :wink: Since you feel the need to always do/have something, have you ever tried a more harmless habit like tea or munching on seeds of something like that?

Anyway, good luck to you :)


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13 Feb 2014, 8:45 am

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Sounds like they're just trying to get you on a Big Pharma Frankenstein Lab Concoction, like Lunesta or Ambien. "Incentives" for tha Dock-Tazz - Ka-CHING! !

I think with Obamacare, things like that are going to get worse, until you won't be able to say a word around any Health Worker without it leading to an invasion of your personal life. Once Big Brother gets involved in anything, it only gets more complicated and less efficient.


people keep saying this like the ACA is government run healthcare NOT under the ACA you are still under a regular insurance company run by capitalism just like before, the only difference is not they are more highly regulated. As in now if you get cancer they can't cancel your plan and make you pay for your cure on your own. AND now you can actually GET insurance if you have pre-existing conditions. There are hundreds of extra benefits ZERO death panels and the government does NOT in any way run it. If your insurance company is computerized an running your life, they were doing it before statistically anyway.


OP - I trust my doctor, we have a pretty good working relationship and I am open and honest. Who I did not trust was the psychiatrist I ended up with before, never listened to anything I said and just wanted me doped up - I am sure it just made him money. The last several doctors I have had actually seem to be looking out for my health (if they were not I would switch)


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13 Feb 2014, 10:10 am

I trust my doctor completely. He doesn't talk down to me and when I ask him to tell me about why I do or feel the way I do, he goes into great detail and doesn't try to dumb it down for me. He was very up front when he told me that my case was one of his most complicated (I have several mental disabilities), but he's remained confident in his ability to treat me. He's never once forced me to do anything, though he has tried to get me to take certain medications that I didn't like the effects of. He was never mad when I stopped them on my own and didn't force the pills down my throat or threaten me. Not to mention he's considered the expert on autism and neurology throughout half of my state. Because of him and the medication I'm on, I'm doing very well. I'm happier, more productive, and more positive about things than I was before I met him.


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13 Feb 2014, 12:38 pm

I don't have a doctor, because I don't trust them as far as I can throw them. I've been misdiagnosed more often than I've been correctly assessed, and once it cost me four years of my life spent staring into space and twitching uncontrollably from meds to treat a condition I didn't have. Far from being helpful, in my experience I'd have to say doctors don't seem to take the "Do no harm" thing very seriously.



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13 Feb 2014, 1:42 pm

I'd never trust a mental health related doctor. Unlike physical illnesses they can just claim you have something and force or coerce you into treatment. With physical ailments you are more likely to be able to refuse treatment if that is your choice. If you are in the hospital for something medical they let you out when you are getting better and you can always sign yourself out against medical advice. The couple of times I was in the hospital I felt like I could leave at any time even if they didn't like it and tried to talk me out of it. I knew I'd be better soon and going home anyways. At least in my experience as a weird person being in a mental hospital means you can't leave unless you manage to fake normal long enough for them to let you out. Being in a mental hospital makes me feel like I've been imprisoned for an indeterminate length of time for the crime of "thinking wrong".

I don't have a primary care doctor even though I've been meaning to get one but then I'd have to make phone calls and what if I pick a bad one? I currently still see my gynecological oncologist and my chemo doctor and they are both really nice. I went to a dental clinic recently and they were nice to me there too.



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13 Feb 2014, 10:03 pm

t depends on the doctor. I had one GP who was wonderful and whom I went to for over 25 years until he retired a few years back. Then I went through a series of four doctors at a nearby clinic, who were always moving on to other jobs so I had to keep breaking in new ones. Doc 1 was OK but moved to New Orleans, Doc 2 was as good as the doc I saw for 25 years but got recalled to work at the CDC, Doc 3 was terrible and i would not go back to him if someone paid me to do so, Doc 4 is a young Asian doctor who was shaky at first but is turning out to be another winner. As with everything, the mileage varies with the individual. The healthcare system as a whole on the other hand is headed downhill into oblivion (IMHO) because the government simply will not control professional and insurance greed. They need to outlaw insurance and slash fees to ever hope to get things back on track.



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13 Feb 2014, 11:44 pm

TTRSage wrote:
t depends on the doctor. I had one GP who was wonderful and whom I went to for over 25 years until he retired a few years back. Then I went through a series of four doctors at a nearby clinic, who were always moving on to other jobs so I had to keep breaking in new ones. Doc 1 was OK but moved to New Orleans, Doc 2 was as good as the doc I saw for 25 years but got recalled to work at the CDC, Doc 3 was terrible and i would not go back to him if someone paid me to do so, Doc 4 is a young Asian doctor who was shaky at first but is turning out to be another winner. As with everything, the mileage varies with the individual. The healthcare system as a whole on the other hand is headed downhill into oblivion (IMHO) because the government simply will not control professional and insurance greed. They need to outlaw insurance and slash fees to ever hope to get things back on track.


yeah pretty much if they do that I would just have to kill myself, if I started having to pay on my own I am dying slowly from no medical \care, the fast way is easier


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14 Feb 2014, 5:04 pm

Personally I don't trust psychiatrists, psychologists, or msw's. I think that they ALL make their living by having their patients (clients) come back to see them weekly, monthly, for YEARS, For DECADES. They can't heal you, they "treat" you. They give us DRUGS that make us feel "better."

I think that once you walk into one of their offices then you are already in trouble. You will tell them what hurts, and they will be sympathetic, and offer you a treatment. And make a followup appointment to see how the treats suit you. Once you have found some treat that you like (that makes you feel better than you felt when you presented your hurt), then when will you ever stop?

All of us like to have someone that we can share our problems with, and have the focus of an intelligent person on us for a little while. Someone who takes our hurting seriously, and who will offer advice perhaps, and pills that "make" us feel better. They say (Google says) that 1 in 10 Americans take antidepressants. Then add the 28% "they say" abuse alcohol, 1% who smoke pot daily, plus the 16% that abuse prescription pills, and also 10% of Americans take prescription sleeping pills... you can see that we Americans are deeply into drugs. And our "doctors" (and health insurance companies, and Big Pharma), are living the big life off of our not feeling good.

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14 Feb 2014, 5:10 pm

tall-p wrote:
Personally I don't trust psychiatrists, psychologists, or msw's. I think that they ALL make their living by having their patients (clients) come back to see them weekly, monthly, for YEARS, For DECADES. They can't heal you, they "treat" you. They give us DRUGS that make us feel "better."


Only psychiatrists can give you drugs, the rest talk to you and attempt talking the problems out

I have done very well with most psychologists and MFT and others, it is the drug pushers I can't get along with


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