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AspergianMutantt
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18 Feb 2014, 2:23 pm

I prefer socially deficit.

But yes.



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18 Feb 2014, 2:24 pm

Of course. My dad is too.


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18 Feb 2014, 2:34 pm

I am socially ret*d.



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18 Feb 2014, 2:40 pm

Yup

I don't mind the term. I feel like I have social retardation. That's it. My socializing skills and underdeveloped and clumsy. If there weren't people out there that liked me for some reason I wouldn't have friends because I can't make any on my own. (well, just the one) That's the bottom line.



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18 Feb 2014, 2:49 pm

I realize one should commit to a,

"What's best for the group"-mentality

to gain better social skills (I believe!). This way, actual bullying turns into simple "teasing", because the group means more than you as an individual.


But the big dilemma is,

Would you rather put up with bullying from higher-ranked group-members or be excluded from the group? You cannot both be accepted by the group and not put up with being bullied by individuals who do better in the group than you do.

I tend to rather want to be excluded from the group and avoid the bullying (or "teasing" as they call it).



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18 Feb 2014, 3:21 pm

I don't think that "socially ret*d" is the right way to describe it. I think that "socially impaired" is. Think about it for a second. Why do we call are ability to socialize "social skills". NT's don't. Unlike NT's, in which there emotions are directly connected to there bodily expressions. We on the other hand have to use "acting skills" to compensate for that neurological function that is missing from are brains. If you think about. "social skills" is a subset of "acting skills". So instead to saying "socially ret*d". I would say something like "acting skills ret*d" or "lacking acting skills".



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18 Feb 2014, 3:59 pm

I have verry merry berry low social cognition and verry merry berry delayed development of social cognition, so social retardation is the correct term for me.

On the scale of social retardation, I am an idiot in implicit social cognition and an imbecile in explicit social cognition, and this combination makes me a social dunce, I decided.


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18 Feb 2014, 4:08 pm

Not Alpha Material.



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18 Feb 2014, 4:13 pm

ret*d is not a good word to use. We may struggle in social situations but it doesn't mean we are ret*d.

http://www.parents.com/blogs/to-the-max ... rd-retard/

ret*d comes from the latin Latin ret*dāre to delay, protract, equivalent to re- re- + tardāre to loiter, be slow, derivative of tardus slow; see tardy

It basically means slow, just because someone struggles with social cues doesn't mean they are slow, they may be very intelligent in other areas. Also ret*d was associated with intellectual disabilities , Autism is not an intellectual disability. Plus people find it offensive now a days even describing people with intellectual disabilities, it basically has the connotation of being stupid, and from what I know about a lot of people with Aspergers they are NOT stupid.


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18 Feb 2014, 4:22 pm

Socially ret*d. Being ret*d is a disability. So socially disabled.
Yeah, being socially disabled is one of the main parts of autism.
Some people are better at overcoming a disability than others.
But it is a disability, not a character flaw.



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18 Feb 2014, 4:48 pm

But when people with intellectual difficulties get called ''intellectually ret*d'' everyone gets offended. :roll:

I have scattered social skills. Some social skills I am instinctively good at like the average person (like having an ability to read body language and tone of voice and facial expressions and recognising when someone is joking or not), whilst other social skills I have trouble with. But my social deficits are more due to social anxiety and shyness.

I am more bad at maths than I am at socialising. So that makes me mathematically ret*d?


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18 Feb 2014, 5:01 pm

i prefer to be referred to as 'socially awkward' too.



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18 Feb 2014, 6:00 pm

pinkgurl87 wrote:
ret*d is not a good word to use. We may struggle in social situations but it doesn't mean we are ret*d.

http://www.parents.com/blogs/to-the-max ... rd-retard/

ret*d comes from the latin Latin ret*dāre to delay, protract, equivalent to re- re- + tardāre to loiter, be slow, derivative of tardus slow; see tardy

It basically means slow, just because someone struggles with social cues doesn't mean they are slow, they may be very intelligent in other areas. Also ret*d was associated with intellectual disabilities , Autism is not an intellectual disability. Plus people find it offensive now a days even describing people with intellectual disabilities, it basically has the connotation of being stupid, and from what I know about a lot of people with Aspergers they are NOT stupid.

but aspergers doesnt equal the spectrum,the majority of us with classic autism DO have an intelectual disability of varying degrees and we arent stupid or 'mentaly ret*d' either.


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18 Feb 2014, 6:10 pm

We are no more socially ret*d than people who only know one language are linguistically ret*d. If you have simply been exposed to it but haven't been taught it, you can't learn it. You have to make it a point to learn it, just like you would if you were trying to learn Spanish or Italian or something.


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18 Feb 2014, 6:11 pm

I'm quite happy to describe myself as socially ret*d, as the meaning of these words isn't too difficult to grasp for the vast majority or intellectually ret*d NT folk.



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18 Feb 2014, 6:32 pm

Pobbles wrote:
I'm quite happy to describe myself as socially ret*d, as the meaning of these words isn't too difficult to grasp for the vast majority or intellectually ret*d NT folk.


Some truth to that. If people with AS are socially ret*d in comparison to NTs, many NTs are intellectually ret*d in comparison to people with AS.