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02 Mar 2014, 12:05 am

If it makes you feel bad, why drink milk or eat dairy products?....Is it that you like to many foods with dairy, or you don't entirely dislike this strange effect it has on you so you want to re-experience it. I mean if your body for whatever reason has a problem with dairy its probably best to just avoid it as much as possible.

Also you say it makes you very moody....I don't know what you describe doesn't sound like a 'high' it sounds more like your body trying to tell you its not tolerating the dairy.


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02 Mar 2014, 12:55 am

I don't know, but I like it. I get addicted to the flavors of certain products, cheese puffs in particular. No one is forcing me to give it up entirely, so I'm not going to give it up. Besides, it seems like small amounts I can handle just fine. I keep saying that, but no one believes me.



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02 Mar 2014, 6:38 am

Mood issues can come with a feeling of euphoria. I can understand someone getting high off certain food groups because fish actually does make me manic. I take fish oil to get some focus and sometimes it can just set me off. I can go into highly agitated energetic state too or rapidly cycle between moods, and this comes with high anxiety and when it all wears off I can end up in depression. I still feel like I need the fish oil to have any focus or motivation at all. It helps get me out of depression.

I would never give up dairy. Chocolate, cottage cheese and lovely milk that makes my nose a bit runny and my attention problems worse.

It is pretty hard to give up on good tasty and addictive food even if you have an intolerance for it.

Here's a good site for you. Just ignore the negativity towards ADHD:

http://naturalhealthwarriors.com/food-i ... ould-know/

One night I actually had milk to help me sleep. The opposite happened. So now I have it during the day with Milo for a good energy kick.


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02 Mar 2014, 8:33 am

pensieve wrote:

Here's a good site for you. Just ignore the negativity towards ADHD:

http://naturalhealthwarriors.com/food-i ... ould-know/

I wouldn't trust that website AT ALL.

Here are some of the other articles it runs:
http://naturalhealthwarriors.com/natura ... han-chemo/
http://naturalhealthwarriors.com/kidney-detox-juices/



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02 Mar 2014, 8:46 am

Thanks for the heads-up. That site does seem fishy.

As for food sensitivities, small amounts don't seem to hurt me. I was in a bit of a bad mood when I wrote that it did, so I was writing whatever came to mind and wasn't thinking clearly. This was due to being pressured into a project against my will, not dairy. Yes, dairy affects me in LARGE and CONSISTENT amounts, but the occasional treat won't hurt me.



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02 Mar 2014, 9:41 am

Cheese puffs...

the gateway drug to heroin!

Sorry.

Cant help laughing.

Its all so mindblowing.

Caffine in coffee is about the only mood altering chemical in food that Im aware of effecting me.



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02 Mar 2014, 11:10 am

honeyaureus wrote:
Thanks for the heads-up. That site does seem fishy.

As for food sensitivities, small amounts don't seem to hurt me. I was in a bit of a bad mood when I wrote that it did, so I was writing whatever came to mind and wasn't thinking clearly. This was due to being pressured into a project against my will, not dairy. Yes, dairy affects me in LARGE and CONSISTENT amounts, but the occasional treat won't hurt me.


So stick to the occasional dairy treat.....problem solved, I'd think.


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02 Mar 2014, 11:12 am

I used to like flaming hot cheetos, and flaming hot fries....I might eat a couple every now and then as I like the taste. But yeah they are way too hard on my digestive system and cause me unpleasantness in the bathroom so yeah I don't eat the damn things hardly even if I do really like the taste....it just isn't worth the following pain a few hours later.


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02 Mar 2014, 2:03 pm

Whenever I eat my stomach becomes really mad and vocal afterwards.
I get cramps and it makes lots of loud noises and I need to go to the toilet a lot.
I am not sure if this is breaking the rules about bowl movements but I did not go into detail.



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02 Mar 2014, 2:16 pm

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Many foods have addictive effects. Fatty foods stimulate chemical releases that bring pleasure.

That's why it's called "comfort foods."
I agree, I think that's the effect that's being talked about here. NTs experience it, too. Maybe we're more likely to be comforted by familiar foods, but I don't think it is specific to autism. We do sometimes get stuck in routines where we're eating the same thing all the time and yeah, it can be something that includes milk... but that's better than something with fewer nutrients. Milk, after all, includes all the nutrients a young cow needs to live; that's a nicely broad spectrum of nutrients, and if you've got a restricted diet, you're better off if milk is in it.

'Course, if you're lactose-intolerant, don't drink milk. Why would you torture yourself like that? Soy milk, rice milk... there's alternatives. They all taste fine. There are even ice cream and cheese substitutes... Do your digestive system a kindness and stay away from milk.


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04 Mar 2014, 9:40 am

Wheat- and dairy products contain opioid peptides influencing endorphin receptors in the brain. Besides drugs and endorphins, opioid-receptors in the brain are susceptible to some other opioid substances: those that are absorbed through consuming food. This happens because far from all peptides are entirely decomposed into single amino acids in the digestive tract.
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04 Mar 2014, 12:20 pm

greenheron wrote:
Wheat- and dairy products contain opioid peptides influencing endorphin receptors in the brain. Besides drugs and endorphins, opioid-receptors in the brain are susceptible to some other opioid substances: those that are absorbed through consuming food. This happens because far from all peptides are entirely decomposed into single amino acids in the digestive tract.
I hope this helps.
Well, yes, of course they do. When you eat, your body tells you, "This is a good thing; you've just nourished yourself." Cue dopamine reward system.

You know what else triggers opioids? Running. Holding a baby. Petting a cat. Getting paid. Winning a game. Just because something feels good doesn't mean it's a drug!


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04 Mar 2014, 8:06 pm

The_Walrus wrote:
pensieve wrote:

Here's a good site for you. Just ignore the negativity towards ADHD:

http://naturalhealthwarriors.com/food-i ... ould-know/

I wouldn't trust that website AT ALL.

Here are some of the other articles it runs:
http://naturalhealthwarriors.com/natura ... han-chemo/
http://naturalhealthwarriors.com/kidney-detox-juices/

I was just saying for the nutrition information and stuff.

Thanks for the extra info. I can tell my sister it's a conspiracy theory site. She posts a lot of these links not knowing where they come from.

That last line is hilarious, about getting a neurotransmitter check and having a doctor prescribe a powder or cream to balance them out. A powder? Like Ritalin? I have ADHD and I get told to go on elimination diets all the time. It's very annoying.


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04 Mar 2014, 8:14 pm

Callista wrote:
greenheron wrote:
Wheat- and dairy products contain opioid peptides influencing endorphin receptors in the brain. Besides drugs and endorphins, opioid-receptors in the brain are susceptible to some other opioid substances: those that are absorbed through consuming food. This happens because far from all peptides are entirely decomposed into single amino acids in the digestive tract.
I hope this helps.
Well, yes, of course they do. When you eat, your body tells you, "This is a good thing; you've just nourished yourself." Cue dopamine reward system.

You know what else triggers opioids? Running. Holding a baby. Petting a cat. Getting paid. Winning a game. Just because something feels good doesn't mean it's a drug!

When you're manic and experience this it does feel like a high.

I still think food sensitivities are real. Perhaps the good feeling everyone experiences is just felt 10 times more. It's pretty good to me because I don't need to take drugs to experience a high, and it is a high.

Dairy is pretty bad for me though. It slows me down and makes it hard to focus. Gluten gives me more excitable energy which helps with focus. And I take fish oil daily for energy which can lead to hypomania.


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