Sometimes I wish I was more stereotypically "aspie"

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The way I look, and the way I act, I can "blend in" to NT society fairly well. The thing is, socially and mentally, I feel like I'm worlds apart from most NT individuals, and when I try explaining to a lot of them that I'm not NT, or that I'm different from them in certain ways, they don't "get" it.

it is unfortunate that asperger syndrome has become stereotyped as a "cool" way to be by young people who idealize it as "naive genius".
young people seem to have an image of asperger syndrome as:

i forgot to insert "i think" at the beginning of each sentence i wrote above.
i also forgot to add the disclaimer "but i may be wrong" at the end of my post.

i was not referring to teens who have not heard of AS (which i assumed would have been obvious) or teens that have no desire to adopt the label. i also was not referring to teens who genuinely have AS.

it is irrelevant to what i said because i was referring to young people who are embarking upon acquiring a self image. old people have long settled upon whatever they think they are (usually). i am not old or young, but i just think that autism is a deficit in my brain that does not allow me to tune into "vibes". i hear all the time about "vibes", but vibes mean as much to me as purple means to a person who was born blind.

you may be correct. i just had a few minutes to spare and indiscriminately responded to the OP. i have a few more minutes to spare now because the output of the program i was waiting to finish was gobbledegook and i am now waiting for an amended version to run.

it just seemed to me that someone asking how to act more "stereotypically aspie" was a bit of an oxymoron, and it attracted my attention, so i responded. i do not claim to be omniscient. i only say what i think.

it is good that you have confidence in your contest of what i said, but there are 7 billion other people who can also be disagreed with, so i am not sure why what i say matters to you. maybe you are cloaking my post in order to repave the way for a more suitable course for this thread to take, and i allow that my input is probably not helpful to the OP.

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Not many of the young people I know tbh.

"What's ass burgers?"
"is a form of autism etc"
"oh so you're a tard"

I certainly don't see it as some special gift or anything

it makes it difficult to function

regardless of the fact some people with autism might develop some special talent or skill. I guess if I saw more younger people striving to fit into the autism club to be 'cool' or whatever, it would piss me off some too...i just don't see it

I don't really hear or see much about autism or aspergers outside this forum, so not sure it really gets enough exposure to be much of a trend.

I mean crap I am 24 and on SSI because having autism along with co-morbids prevents my ability to function...its not all that cool to be unable to hold a job and live on a small set income and still live at home in a crappy basement room which flooded a bit last spring from rain leaking in the window.

Understand what you are saying.
Have contemplated the difficulties of blending and and yet being separated.
It sounds like purgatory in a way to me.
Am kind of glad in a way that my autism is so pronounced that it would
be pointless for me to try appearing NT.
Can only imagine how stressful and draining that can be.

I just posted a question on yahoo answers asking people if they think Asperger's syndrome is cool. Most of the people on yahoo answers are young people. You can see the question here.

I'm shocked but happy that everyone agrees that it ISN'T cool to have Aspergers.

the program is still not working correctly so...




i was not thinking about you when i posted what i posted so there is no need for you to adopt a defensive position.

i know it does. i believe you have AS and i believe you know how it feels, but i was not talking about you in my original post.



it is not so much that people strive to fit in to the autism club. it is much more that they wish to redefine it to suit their own personalities. i have read on this forum that people with asperger syndrome are more empathetic than "NT"'s, and they then go on to claim that they have so much empathy, that "NT"'s are unable to fathom the depths of their empathy and so "NT"'s erroneously believe that people with AS have no empathy.

i am not going to embark upon a tired old discourse about empathy or sympathy because the subject has been exhausted in other threads, but i do not subscribe to the idea that people with AS have an overabundance of what they were previously assessed to lack.

i am simple and straight forward and my personality is not a gossamer web of intrigue and magic, and i believe you are also straight forward so i understand you.



i was not talking about the majority of society being seduced by widespread coverage of AS. i was talking about a subset of young people on this forum who believe they are superior to other "average" people.
i was referring to people who are at worst scornfully denigrating of average people, and who are at best, haughtily approving of whatever they feel they are different to society about.

there are many egomaniacs in the population, and those people like to consider themselves as unique and incontrovertible.



please do not feel the need to defend yourself against my sentiments i originally posted.
i was lucky that i got a job that paid well and i can now afford to cast the world and it's obligations aside, and if i was in your situation, i would feel squashed by the requirements of a world that i do not understand. i was not talking about you in my original post. i believe you. what you say seems true to me.

I am not surprised at all. That is much to small a sample to be definitive. I suspect that if you took a scientific survey of Millennials the results would be similar. I suspect a lot of the Aspergers as trendy, Aspie wannabe talk is from bullies, people who never believed High Functioning Autism is real in the first place, or a marketing campaign by insurance companies to have less people diagnosed. Unfortunately it seems a majority of us have internalized this garbage and indications are diagnosis is dropping.

The above does not mean I oppose finding and publicizing the positives or feeling it is part of who you are. These things have helped people who for years or decades thought they were hopeless and broken. Bullies and few Aspie supremacists should never have been allowed to make these things into a negative.

I feel really stupid because I read your response many times now and I still don't get what you're trying to say in response to my comment. Sorry

I wasn't getting defensive, simply stating I don't share the view that its some special gift...and so if there are people in my age group and younger who do feel that way I am not one of them. I think I mostly agree with what you've posted. If you meant a sub-set of people in this forum I could see it there are some here who even think they are superior to NTs because of being on the spectrum which is ridiculous.

I feel really stupid because I read your response many times now and I still don't get what you're trying to say in response to my comment. Sorry

I think that this is an example of the phrase "the grass is always greener on the other side" but I am not sure.
This is because you would like to be left alone but being left alone can result in loneliness and depression.
However, I may be reading the situation wrong and if I am, sorry.
I am going to make an analogy:
This is like if you lived in London and saw what somewhere such as Italy looks like,
you would probably say (most people would) "I would like to live there, it looks nice".
But some people in Italy look at good pictures of London and say "I would like to live there, it looks nice".
I provided this explanation because I don't know if you know what the phrase means.