Do you feel you are easily manipulated?

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11 Mar 2014, 10:10 pm

cathylynn wrote:
not any more.


Good for you, cathylynn. I wish I could say the same. Perhaps, I will get there...



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11 Mar 2014, 10:13 pm

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Especially in real time, especially when they override me, talk over me, etc. it's easy for me to end up agreeing with something I do not agree with because of the way many allistic/NT types have of communicating without allowing room for discussion. Other NTs/allistics can meet this head on, but I can't function because I am behind the curve for the entire conversation, and may not even know what all was said until hours later.


Same for me. It took me a long time to even realize how it happens. I used to just feel dazed and run over by people and not even know why. Now I am more aware of it but still feel kind of helpless while it is happening. Seems to be the worst for me over the phone.



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11 Mar 2014, 10:15 pm

em_tsuj wrote:
I am not easily manipulated. I don't trust people. I expect them to be lying.


This. It makes me sad though. It's not some badge of honor, but just a callous of scars. :(



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11 Mar 2014, 10:44 pm

Yes, and it took me my entire life to figure it out



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11 Mar 2014, 11:00 pm

I don't know. As I said in another thread, I have difficulty recognizing manipulation or knowing what it is and what it is for, but I don't know if I am easily manipulated, but if I were, then I don't think that I would know that I was.


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11 Mar 2014, 11:17 pm

Think a lot of people on the spectrum are easily manipulated.
Probably in my case because am honest and no good at tricking
that way so don't catch it too well when someone is tricking me.
But at the same time have been taught to be cautious and skeptical.
The take everything with a grain of salt thing.



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12 Mar 2014, 12:42 am

daydreamer84 wrote:
When I decide a person is a nice person and is a friend then I tend to trust them too much and I get hurt sometimes.
That's my problem too. I'm extremely suspicious of strangers and very skeptical of people I don't know very well. But after a certain level of friendship is reached, I become very trusting and usually believe anything the person says.

I've learned to be a little better with that. I will still believe a friend and give him or her the benefit of the doubt (believe what's said unless it's an obvious lie, even to me). But if it's something that's going to take advantage of me, either money or time or emotion, I make myself stop and think about it more and maybe ask for advice from someone I trust who isn't friends with the person I have doubts about.


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12 Mar 2014, 12:48 am

dianthus wrote:
Verdandi wrote:
Especially in real time, especially when they override me, talk over me, etc. it's easy for me to end up agreeing with something I do not agree with because of the way many allistic/NT types have of communicating without allowing room for discussion. Other NTs/allistics can meet this head on, but I can't function because I am behind the curve for the entire conversation, and may not even know what all was said until hours later.


Same for me. It took me a long time to even realize how it happens. I used to just feel dazed and run over by people and not even know why. Now I am more aware of it but still feel kind of helpless while it is happening. Seems to be the worst for me over the phone.


I used to really resent it, and would get extremely frustrated with people over it. It was only recently I realized that it's likely no one is trying to do this to me, I just don't have the ability to cope with it when it's happening.



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12 Mar 2014, 12:50 am

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I don't know. As I said in another thread, I have difficulty recognizing manipulation or knowing what it is and what it is for, but I don't know if I am easily manipulated, but if I were, then I don't think that I would know that I was.


I couldn't begin to guess, but a big part of (hostile) manipulation is trying to turn your own emotions against your own best interest.



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12 Mar 2014, 12:52 am

IOW trying to scare you into doing something non-prudent.



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12 Mar 2014, 12:56 am

I've been manipulated before, online and in real life so I am probably easily manipulated. I am sure my ex boyfriends were too and I didn't know it at the time. I know my last one was emotional manipulative after reading about it.

Whenever people twist my words, I am not sure if they are doing it deliberate or if they are obtuse, if I assume they are dong it deliberate, I saves me time arguing with them so I am not suckered into it because I think that person can't really be that dumb. If they have trauma from their past, I give them the benefit of the doubt and assume they are not doing it on purpose and their view is just clouded so it effects how they read things. I just don't bother arguing with these people knowing I will just go around in circles and they will keep twisting my words making it worse.


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12 Mar 2014, 12:58 am

Verdandi wrote:
btbnnyr wrote:
I don't know. As I said in another thread, I have difficulty recognizing manipulation or knowing what it is and what it is for, but I don't know if I am easily manipulated, but if I were, then I don't think that I would know that I was.


I couldn't begin to guess, but a big part of (hostile) manipulation is trying to turn your own emotions against your own best interest.


That is so true! I really think people who engage in it on forums don't really give one flying F**** about the subject they are engaging in, it's all just a game to get in people's heads. They could be discussing dust mites for all they care, but it wouldn't get the same reaction, and they know exactly what will get it.



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12 Mar 2014, 1:15 am

auntblabby wrote:
IOW trying to scare you into doing something non-prudent.


Yes, that. A phrase I used somewhere was "instill a false sense of peril."

wozeree wrote:
That is so true! I really think people who engage in it on forums don't really give one flying F**** about the subject they are engaging in, it's all just a game to get in people's heads. They could be discussing dust mites for all they care, but it wouldn't get the same reaction, and they know exactly what will get it.


This kind of blows my mind, though. Not caring about the topic, only the reaction is utterly bizarre to me. Possibly why I don't really get antagonistic trolls.

Absurdist trolls I do get. They can be pretty hilarious, although the frustration they can cause is not quite so funny.



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12 Mar 2014, 1:28 am

Yeah it's crazy - I have to force myself to remember that at all times.



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12 Mar 2014, 3:59 am

I have been easliy manipulated. I usually realise it later, and it really hurts. I am a lot more cynical and cautious than I used to be, but I still get caught. In the last week someone who I thought was a friend I could trust said some very manipulative and passive agressive stuff to me, so It seems I still can't pick 'em. :(



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12 Mar 2014, 5:29 am

Sometimes I am easily manipulated.

I think it's because I just don't expect people to be manipulative.

I'm probably a bit naïve and gullible.

I don't mind admitting it.


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