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16 Mar 2014, 10:34 am

Thanks everyone.

The main reason why I made this thread is that over the last few months I have been thinking about me, who am and where I stand in society with respect to everyone else.

I was diagnosed nearly ten years ago now, and ever since then I have fought every step of the way because I wanted to defy my diagnosis and the fact that I was told there is no cure.

Today was the defining moment in my life where I have realised and accepted that I will never be cured, no matter what I do.

But then I find that through my "journey", I have become extremely sympathetic, understanding and supportive of the NT's who are in my life.

I feel that they have just as many if not far more insecurities, flaws and quirks than me.

This makes me feel less disadvantaged in a way.

That is why I was wondering whether there are any true NT's out there.

I hope that was readable.


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16 Mar 2014, 12:00 pm

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I wanted to defy my diagnosis and the fact that I was told there is no cure.

Today was the defining moment in my life where I have realised and accepted that I will never be cured, no matter what I do.

I shudder every time I hear autism can't be cured. Of all the things I or any of us look for, a cure doesn't seem to be the thing most of us want. It's really discouraging to hear there is no cure, but that seems to be what other people want. I want to be accepted and acceptable, and looking around, I agree, NTs have plenty of quirks and issues, they don't seem so far away.

If you don't mind my asking, Babybird, how did you reach acceptance that you will never be cured, no matter what you do? Because I keep thinking I'm like anyone else when I am, and being destroyed when they show that they only see me that way for a little while, at most.

In answer to your question, I think there are true NTs but that they are just as quirky as anyone else. I think people know who they are, but I've no idea how they know this.



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16 Mar 2014, 12:42 pm

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If you don't mind my asking, Babybird, how did you reach acceptance that you will never be cured, no matter what you do? Because I keep thinking I'm like anyone else when I am, and being destroyed when they show that they only see me that way for a little while, at most.


To be honest, I can't actually remember my train of thought at the time (I go a bit deep sometimes).

All I know is, is that was the conclusion I reached.

I'm not at all depressed about this.

No, in fact I feel better.

It's as though the pressure's off.


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16 Mar 2014, 1:10 pm

babybird wrote:
Waterfalls wrote:
If you don't mind my asking, Babybird, how did you reach acceptance that you will never be cured, no matter what you do? Because I keep thinking I'm like anyone else when I am, and being destroyed when they show that they only see me that way for a little while, at most.


To be honest, I can't actually remember my train of thought at the time (I go a bit deep sometimes).

All I know is, is that was the conclusion I reached.

I'm not at all depressed about this.

No, in fact I feel better.

It's as though the pressure's off.

I think I'd feel better and have an easier time if I could do that, or if it didn't matter, is all. Thanks, Babybird.



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16 Mar 2014, 1:34 pm

^^Thankyou waterfalls.

I'm only trying to find my way through life.

Just like everyone else.


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16 Mar 2014, 2:00 pm

babybird wrote:
Thanks everyone.

The main reason why I made this thread is that over the last few months I have been thinking about me, who am and where I stand in society with respect to everyone else.

I was diagnosed nearly ten years ago now, and ever since then I have fought every step of the way because I wanted to defy my diagnosis and the fact that I was told there is no cure.

Today was the defining moment in my life where I have realised and accepted that I will never be cured, no matter what I do.

But then I find that through my "journey", I have become extremely sympathetic, understanding and supportive of the NT's who are in my life.

I feel that they have just as many if not far more insecurities, flaws and quirks than me.

This makes me feel less disadvantaged in a way.

That is why I was wondering whether there are any true NT's out there.

I hope that was readable.


I think that you're confusing the term "neurotypical" with the term "normal".

Being aspie is not the same thing as being neurotic.

NTs can be neurotic.

I think of 'being on the autism spectrum" as being a "hardware problem". And being neurotic as a "software problem".

Being aspie is being wired differently than other folks. Neurotics may or may not have normal 'wiring' but they are programmed wrong ( vicitims of bad parenting or traumas or just learned coping skills that worked at one point in their lives that dont work at later stages in their lives).

So the non - autistics ( the NTs) in your life might very well be as neurotic as you - and may well even be more so. But they are still NT, and you are still aspie.



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16 Mar 2014, 6:55 pm

babybird wrote:
Thanks everyone.

The main reason why I made this thread is that over the last few months I have been thinking about me, who am and where I stand in society with respect to everyone else.

I was diagnosed nearly ten years ago now, and ever since then I have fought every step of the way because I wanted to defy my diagnosis and the fact that I was told there is no cure.

Today was the defining moment in my life where I have realised and accepted that I will never be cured, no matter what I do.

But then I find that through my "journey", I have become extremely sympathetic, understanding and supportive of the NT's who are in my life.

I feel that they have just as many if not far more insecurities, flaws and quirks than me.

This makes me feel less disadvantaged in a way.

That is why I was wondering whether there are any true NT's out there.

I hope that was readable.


Congratulations on finding acceptance. One of the bigger days of your life I would think.

There are people act typically in certain situations but no typical people so there is no neurotypical people. There is a neuromajority. Most of our problems are not the result of our disabilities but in being a minority.


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17 Mar 2014, 8:54 am

babybird wrote:
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What do you mean by NT?
Do you mean "person who hasn't got the littlest quirk"? Then you will find no one like that.
Do you mean "person who hasn't got a brain different from most humans"? Then you'll find a lot of people like that.


I mean, I try to look around for the person who fits in with what I believe an NT should be.

I try to get to know people. But it seems like the more I get to know people, their defences drop and they seem not so typical after all.

It is really amusing for me to see.

I really don't think there is such a thing as the perfect specimen of NT-ness.

This has been a life long pursuit of mine.

I agree with what you say here. The more I get to know people, the weirder they look to me.