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20 Mar 2014, 8:40 pm

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I had read somewhere that Aspies don't typically sense dangerous or threatening situations the way NT people do.


Fortunately, where I live the dangers, at least dangers from other people, are really minimal.

Just don't pick up any rattlesnakes.



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20 Mar 2014, 9:33 pm

dont assume everyone on the internet who says something about themselves is being honest unless they have backed themselves up before by at least the most basic of proof such as photos of themselves holding their forum username up and date,or photos of them which show their disability,disability aids etc.
blind faith of other users is good but being a bit cynical on the internet is better given the level of lying and pity & attention seeking that goes on-its the perfect format for people who have lonely lives and feel they need attention/pity.

if private messaging is difficult/stressful for whatever reason,dont use it,it just makes things worse for some of us but people who PM shoudnt assume we are ignoring them as in most cases its because we cant due to any manner of reasons.

get help with mental illness before it gets to the point of needing inpatient services as there are a lot of consequences that come along with being an inpatient;especialy if it was involuntary [known as sectioning in the UK].
in the UK if feeling very depressed, even having suicidal thinking or wanting to attempt it; GPs class this all as an emergency and it is given an emergency [same day] appointment in the doctors-phone early for appointment.


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20 Mar 2014, 9:43 pm

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dont assume everyone on the internet who says something about themselves is being honest unless they have backed themselves up before by at least the most basic of proof such as photos of themselves holding their forum username up and date,or photos of them which show their disability,disability aids etc.
blind faith of other users is good but being a bit cynical on the internet is better given the level of lying and pity & attention seeking that goes on-its the perfect format for people who have lonely lives and feel they need attention/pity.

if private messaging is difficult/stressful for whatever reason,dont use it,it just makes things worse for some of us but people who PM shoudnt assume we are ignoring them as in most cases its because we cant due to any manner of reasons.

get help with mental illness before it gets to the point of needing inpatient services as there are a lot of consequences that come along with being an inpatient;especialy if it was involuntary [known as sectioning in the UK].
in the UK if feeling very depressed, even having suicidal thinking or wanting to attempt it; GPs class this all as an emergency and it is given an emergency [same day] appointment in the doctors-phone early for appointment.


How is some one supposed to post a picture of themselves displaying their Aspieness, or their depression, anxiety, or BPD? How does someone display proof of their mental illness to you in a photograph. That would be helpful to all of us who are on disability because of our mental issues and are constantly being accused of being "fakes." And I don't even allow my family members to take pictures of me. Am I unauthentic because I don't have a picture to put on WP? Or because I do not want my picture on the internet? I think you are being a bit brutal. I, for one, am not a cyborg.



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20 Mar 2014, 10:01 pm

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dont assume everyone on the internet who says something about themselves is being honest unless they have backed themselves up before by at least the most basic of proof such as photos of themselves holding their forum username up and date,or photos of them which show their disability,disability aids etc.
blind faith of other users is good but being a bit cynical on the internet is better given the level of lying and pity & attention seeking that goes on-its the perfect format for people who have lonely lives and feel they need attention/pity.

if private messaging is difficult/stressful for whatever reason,dont use it,it just makes things worse for some of us but people who PM shoudnt assume we are ignoring them as in most cases its because we cant due to any manner of reasons.

get help with mental illness before it gets to the point of needing inpatient services as there are a lot of consequences that come along with being an inpatient;especialy if it was involuntary [known as sectioning in the UK].
in the UK if feeling very depressed, even having suicidal thinking or wanting to attempt it; GPs class this all as an emergency and it is given an emergency [same day] appointment in the doctors-phone early for appointment.


How is some one supposed to post a picture of themselves displaying their Aspieness, or their depression, anxiety, or BPD? How does someone display proof of their mental illness to you in a photograph. That would be helpful to all of us who are on disability because of our mental issues and are constantly being accused of being "fakes." And I don't even allow my family members to take pictures of me. Am I unauthentic because I don't have a picture to put on WP? Or because I do not want my picture on the internet? I think you are being a bit brutal. I, for one, am not a cyborg.


you are NOT unique in this - I don't have anything like instagram or any other posting site, I won't even use gmail/google+ since it spreads your data all over. I ahve just a dew even on facebook and no profile photo


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20 Mar 2014, 10:10 pm

khaoz wrote:
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dont assume everyone on the internet who says something about themselves is being honest unless they have backed themselves up before by at least the most basic of proof such as photos of themselves holding their forum username up and date,or photos of them which show their disability,disability aids etc.
blind faith of other users is good but being a bit cynical on the internet is better given the level of lying and pity & attention seeking that goes on-its the perfect format for people who have lonely lives and feel they need attention/pity.

if private messaging is difficult/stressful for whatever reason,dont use it,it just makes things worse for some of us but people who PM shoudnt assume we are ignoring them as in most cases its because we cant due to any manner of reasons.

get help with mental illness before it gets to the point of needing inpatient services as there are a lot of consequences that come along with being an inpatient;especialy if it was involuntary [known as sectioning in the UK].
in the UK if feeling very depressed, even having suicidal thinking or wanting to attempt it; GPs class this all as an emergency and it is given an emergency [same day] appointment in the doctors-phone early for appointment.


How is some one supposed to post a picture of themselves displaying their Aspieness, or their depression, anxiety, or BPD? How does someone display proof of their mental illness to you in a photograph. That would be helpful to all of us who are on disability because of our mental issues and are constantly being accused of being "fakes." And I don't even allow my family members to take pictures of me. Am I unauthentic because I don't have a picture to put on WP? Or because I do not want my picture on the internet? I think you are being a bit brutal. I, for one, am not a cyborg.



I don't think she's saying that we all have to do it just that if someone did this she personally would feel more comfertable with them.


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20 Mar 2014, 10:13 pm

Yeah and if somebody is asking you for information or money or something. If you are just posting, then nothing is required.



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20 Mar 2014, 10:37 pm

jenisautistic wrote:
khaoz wrote:
KingdomOfRats wrote:
dont assume everyone on the internet who says something about themselves is being honest unless they have backed themselves up before by at least the most basic of proof such as photos of themselves holding their forum username up and date,or photos of them which show their disability,disability aids etc.
blind faith of other users is good but being a bit cynical on the internet is better given the level of lying and pity & attention seeking that goes on-its the perfect format for people who have lonely lives and feel they need attention/pity.

if private messaging is difficult/stressful for whatever reason,dont use it,it just makes things worse for some of us but people who PM shoudnt assume we are ignoring them as in most cases its because we cant due to any manner of reasons.

get help with mental illness before it gets to the point of needing inpatient services as there are a lot of consequences that come along with being an inpatient;especialy if it was involuntary [known as sectioning in the UK].
in the UK if feeling very depressed, even having suicidal thinking or wanting to attempt it; GPs class this all as an emergency and it is given an emergency [same day] appointment in the doctors-phone early for appointment.


How is some one supposed to post a picture of themselves displaying their Aspieness, or their depression, anxiety, or BPD? How does someone display proof of their mental illness to you in a photograph. That would be helpful to all of us who are on disability because of our mental issues and are constantly being accused of being "fakes." And I don't even allow my family members to take pictures of me. Am I unauthentic because I don't have a picture to put on WP? Or because I do not want my picture on the internet? I think you are being a bit brutal. I, for one, am not a cyborg.



I don't think she's saying that we all have to do it just that if someone did this she personally would feel more comfertable with them.

yep,
thats it jen,thanks!

am a lot more cynical than most on WP due to the abuse have suffered from a frauding predator, plenty of people arent comfortable with having their photos in the public domain-thats fine,but for self its just more reasurring to see visual proof that they are the person in the photo so have always felt more comfortable when seeing people back themselves up- people are less likely to lie if they are represented visualy by themselves on sites,its like people sub conciously know if they troll/attention seek etc theyre a lot more easily found out so dont want to do any stupid behavior.


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20 Mar 2014, 10:51 pm

Sad as it is I advise most people not to revel much of anything as there are so many predatory types on the web. It seems that among the NTs that falsifying accounts and presenting themselves as someone they are not happens far more then many realize. Are all people this way? No of course not. But there are more then enough that are and will take advantage of someone whom they feel may be vulnerable.

Often times I wish it were not this way as I would love to have some friends that I could be close to. I have just been bitten once too many times and like many of us here, I can't pick up on the subtle clues that something isn't quite right with someone. Plus being on a computer can mask things even further. I have tried forming close friendships online as I live in a somewhat remote area. Mostly Amish and farmers and the like. But I don't mind being alone either, for me it isn't a problem. But now and then a true friend would be nice.

Bottom line is stay SAFE and don't give out ANY info.....



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20 Mar 2014, 11:07 pm

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Sad as it is I advise most people not to revel much of anything as there are so many predatory types on the web. It seems that among the NTs that falsifying accounts and presenting themselves as someone they are not happens far more then many realize. Are all people this way? No of course not. But there are more then enough that are and will take advantage of someone whom they feel may be vulnerable.

Often times I wish it were not this way as I would love to have some friends that I could be close to. I have just been bitten once too many times and like many of us here, I can't pick up on the subtle clues that something isn't quite right with someone. Plus being on a computer can mask things even further. I have tried forming close friendships online as I live in a somewhat remote area. Mostly Amish and farmers and the like. But I don't mind being alone either, for me it isn't a problem. But now and then a true friend would be nice.

Bottom line is stay SAFE and don't give out ANY info.....

ll, I think it depends on what you are looking for here, or anywhere online. You can be fried just as easily by someone you can see and verify as by some fraudster. If you are looking for nothing but friendship with no expectations or intentions how can you be burnt. If you are not trying to obtain something from another person yourself it shouldn't matter who is on the other end. Its like some one trying to sell you something or scam you for money. If there is nothing you desire then there is nothing that anyone can take from you, not monetarily, not physically, nor emotionally. I have been butchered emotionally, both online and in person, by people I can see clearly. Now I have no expectations that someone can use to scald me with. But youth has its indiscretions, and desires, and needs. Join the International Skeptics Society.



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20 Mar 2014, 11:19 pm

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Learn self defense. Some sort of actual self defense that will work in all situations and not just in a dojo with others of your belt rank while the sensei is looking. Learn when to use it and just as importantly, learn when not to use it and when to just walk away. Unless you are very good at it, the best option is walking away, every time, especially from a stranger because you have no clue what he can and cannot do, or if he's armed.

If you are able to, and do not have an anger problem or an impulse control problem, buy and learn to use a firearm and get a CCP if your state allows them. If you do this, remember that you NEVER pull your weapon or point it at someone unless you are fully prepared to shoot and kill them. Never, ever shoot at someone unless you are prepared to kill them, because even though you very well may not kill them, you also very well may.

Always follow your gut instinct. If something or somebody just doesn't feel "right" then they probably aren't. Stay the hell away from them/there.

You never have to make an excuse for saying no, leaving, or walking away from someone.


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20 Mar 2014, 11:32 pm

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ll, I think it depends on what you are looking for here, or anywhere online. You can be fried just as easily by someone you can see and verify as by some fraudster. If you are looking for nothing but friendship with no expectations or intentions how can you be burnt. If you are not trying to obtain something from another person yourself it shouldn't matter who is on the other end. Its like some one trying to sell you something or scam you for money. If there is nothing you desire then there is nothing that anyone can take from you, not monetarily, not physically, nor emotionally. I have been butchered emotionally, both online and in person, by people I can see clearly. Now I have no expectations that someone can use to scald me with. But youth has its indiscretions, and desires, and needs. Join the International Skeptics Society.


Well your definition of friendship and mine must obviously be different. For me a true friendship (in RL or online) there does become some sort of emotional attachment and trust. Someone you can share thoughts with no fear of rejection, exposure to others, etc. If there is no bond whatsoever, then are they really a friend? That sounds like what you are describing and to me that is an acquaintance and NOT a friend IMO.



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20 Mar 2014, 11:49 pm

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ll, I think it depends on what you are looking for here, or anywhere online. You can be fried just as easily by someone you can see and verify as by some fraudster. If you are looking for nothing but friendship with no expectations or intentions how can you be burnt. If you are not trying to obtain something from another person yourself it shouldn't matter who is on the other end. Its like some one trying to sell you something or scam you for money. If there is nothing you desire then there is nothing that anyone can take from you, not monetarily, not physically, nor emotionally. I have been butchered emotionally, both online and in person, by people I can see clearly. Now I have no expectations that someone can use to scald me with. But youth has its indiscretions, and desires, and needs. Join the International Skeptics Society.


Well your definition of friendship and mine must obviously be different. For me a true friendship (in RL or online) there does become some sort of emotional attachment and trust. Someone you can share thoughts with no fear of rejection, exposure to others, etc. If there is no bond whatsoever, then are they really a friend? That sounds like what you are describing and to me that is an acquaintance and NOT a friend IMO.


I consider everyone on WP a friend, because I am not going to share my identity. I can share anything you want to know that does not involve me identifying myself. Someone can be a confidant without knowing another persons identity. That is true for anyone. To me, once you share your identity with someone online, you have shared responsibility for anything that goes wrong. In RL I am incapable of having anything close to what you, or anyone else would consider a "friend," so the point is moot. What do you want to know about me? I do not tell lies or have any desire to hurt anyone else, especially emotionally, so I don't look for someone to hurt me. Maybe its a lesson that comes as much with age, as experience.



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21 Mar 2014, 6:34 am

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21 Mar 2014, 8:51 am

Never confront strangers if you see them doing things they are not supposed to be doing such as cycling on the sidewalk or in places that don't allow it

Never befriend a stranger, it has to be from a group you go to or from work or a neighbor or from church or clubs you're in

Never give out your social security number unless you are filling out a form

Burn your personal information or shred it or rip it up into small pieces or scribble over them

Never show any naked pictures of yourself online

If you are female, always say you don't have a webcam to a guy


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21 Mar 2014, 12:04 pm

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I'll start:

Never give anyone your bank P.I.N. number even if they are a friend or someone that most people trust like a police-person.


Whoops!

Oh wait, they dont have my card number

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21 Mar 2014, 1:10 pm

If you are a young woman, be careful about having friendships with men. Some men pretend they just want to be friendly when they really want to date you or have sex with you. Even if you tell them no repeatedly they think if they just bide their time you will change your mind. Don't go anywhere alone with someone who doesn't take no for an answer. They might say something like, let's just hang out as friends, but if they keep touching you or trying to take you by the arm, or talking about how you look, they are really looking for sex.

If someone tries to follow you home, don't go home. Take a detour, or go to the nearest police station or a large public place where there are lots of people around.