Chris Chan & Criminal sanctions for internet trolls.

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Should people who troll mentally handicapped people that encourage ridicule of themselves by saying stupid things on social media ever be subject to criminal prosecution?
Yes, but only if the trolling is malicious, and has a serious detrimental impact on the victims real life. 41%  41%  [ 15 ]
Yes, but only if doing so does not limit other kinds of free speech. 8%  8%  [ 3 ]
No. Handicapped people have a personal responsibility to self censor what they say online if they don't want to get trolled. 8%  8%  [ 3 ]
No. Free speech is an absolute right. 19%  19%  [ 7 ]
Option 1 + 2. 11%  11%  [ 4 ]
Other (please state). 14%  14%  [ 5 ]
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05 Apr 2014, 11:52 am

He purposefully brings it on himself. He knows better. He baits people so he can run away whining that "They are mean to meeeeeee". It's not like he's just trying to express himself and people are being douches to him. He does it on purpose. He's a professional victim.


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05 Apr 2014, 1:06 pm

I don't think he's posted anything in a long time. All of his videos seem to be from 2009 and earlier.


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05 Apr 2014, 1:20 pm

DevilKisses wrote:
I don't think he's posted anything in a long time. All of his videos seem to be from 2009 and earlier.


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05 Apr 2014, 1:26 pm

Judge online harassment the same way you judge offline harassment--the Internet is just another way to communicate. If harassment occurs online, it still counts as harassment, yeah? If there's to be any new law, I would have it state something like, "Things that occur on the internet still count, and the law still applies."

So if you were to write somebody a death threat on Facebook, it should be prosecuted the same way as if you were to write a death threat and mail it in an envelope.


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05 Apr 2014, 5:23 pm

in this country;the UK, cyber bullying and bullying/abuse aimed at someone because theyre disabled are illegal.

most regulars here will know of the vicious abuse,advantage taking,threats,identity theft and stalking across the internet had personaly suffered from a now thankfuly banned [though still sockpuppeting] WP member, because am severely autistic and intelectualy disabled had had no capacity to communicate what was happening across to support staff or family.

was put through his sht for years to the point had developed severe major depressive disorder and severe paranoid pyschosis.
-was sectioned last september in an intelectual disability hospital for four f*****g months because of him.
-was put on the social services safe guarding team list and banned from being in the same room as the two beloved nieces of mine unless there were people present and was unable to be near them unless was stared at-as if had done something criminal.

because am under the mental capacity act it was considered a worser crime by the police but because of the pyschosis and PTSD issues was unable to go to them for support.

yes,am completely of the belief that bullying of vulnerable individuals especialy shoud be taken a lot more seriously in the countries it isnt.

chris chan isnt intelectualy disabled but he is vulnerable because of how his autism presents and his lack of social understanding,of course there shoud be something done about the bullying.

in this country,if anyone says a swear word against generic celebrities on twitter, they get their arse hauled into court and are publicaly shamed on the news, we really need to be doing a lot more for people who dont have the emotional,communicative and/or mental capacity to deal with online bullying, never mind putting priority on some non disabled celebrity getting their feelings hurt over some loser saying theyre sht at their job; they woudnt be in the limelight if they werent able to cope with criticism and negative comments.


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05 Apr 2014, 7:50 pm

OliveOilMom wrote:
He purposefully brings it on himself. He knows better. He baits people so he can run away whining that "They are mean to meeeeeee". It's not like he's just trying to express himself and people are being douches to him. He does it on purpose. He's a professional victim.


How do you know this for certain?


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06 Apr 2014, 2:35 am

How do you know this OP was not made by a troll? dont feed the trolls.



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06 Apr 2014, 10:27 am

I hate trolls, they should be found - take away every device they have that can access anything and forbidden to ever own them again


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06 Apr 2014, 10:46 am

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So essentially people should just STFU if they are getting harassed online...not sure I agree with this concept.


I think they should disconnect if anything they are doing online is having a bad effect on them in real life. I was ready to disconnect when I thought time spent on forums was partly to blame for problems keeping up in school. I mean again like with that girl I know. If that website had crashed forever, all her troubles there would have magically disappeared.

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He purposefully brings it on himself. He knows better. He baits people so he can run away whining that "They are mean to meeeeeee". It's not like he's just trying to express himself and people are being douches to him. He does it on purpose. He's a professional victim.


Yeah that's the way I see this kind of stuff in general too. And professional is probably right, he's probably making money off all that.

Nobody has the right to bully or abuse anyone. And nobody should be bullied or abused. But I still think if someone knows that being bullied and abused on the internet, then they should disconnect instead of staying plugged in. I mean what if their device crashes and they don't have the money to fix it? Where are all their online problems then? Poof they are gone. Maybe they end up going for a nice walk instead.



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06 Apr 2014, 11:26 am

EzraS wrote:
Sweetleaf wrote:
So essentially people should just STFU if they are getting harassed online...not sure I agree with this concept.


I think they should disconnect if anything they are doing online is having a bad effect on them in real life. I was ready to disconnect when I thought time spent on forums was partly to blame for problems keeping up in school. I mean again like with that girl I know. If that website had crashed forever, all her troubles there would have magically disappeared.

OliveOilMom wrote:
He purposefully brings it on himself. He knows better. He baits people so he can run away whining that "They are mean to meeeeeee". It's not like he's just trying to express himself and people are being douches to him. He does it on purpose. He's a professional victim.


Yeah that's the way I see this kind of stuff in general too. And professional is probably right, he's probably making money off all that.

Nobody has the right to bully or abuse anyone. And nobody should be bullied or abused. But I still think if someone knows that being bullied and abused on the internet, then they should disconnect instead of staying plugged in. I mean what if their device crashes and they don't have the money to fix it? Where are all their online problems then? Poof they are gone. Maybe they end up going for a nice walk instead.


I think in some circumstances it is best to avoid some websites, or even the internet all together for a while if its causing problems. However say like someone was getting severely bullied on this site? many people come here for support and to talk to others with autism I don't think the appropriate thing would be for them to just delete their account and avoid the site...I'd say action should be taken against the one doing the bullying like banning them ect. I guess my point is being barred from the internet due to being bullied isn't right its like punishing someone for being bullied.

I myself had to leave forums in the past due to harrassment from people and the sites lack of action taken against it...which I feel was reasonable since all it was doing was upsetting me. But I couldn't imagine just avoiding the internet from then on and never expressing anything due to that incident.


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06 Apr 2014, 12:00 pm

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I think in some circumstances it is best to avoid some websites, or even the internet all together for a while if its causing problems. However say like someone was getting severely bullied on this site? many people come here for support and to talk to others with autism I don't think the appropriate thing would be for them to just delete their account and avoid the site...I'd say action should be taken against the one doing the bullying like banning them ect.

have posted further up what happens when someone gets bullied on wrong planet.
the mods are great and banned several of the scumbags accounts,he is a pyschopathic predator and deliberately targets the most vulnerable users on disability themed websites.


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12 Sep 2018, 3:58 am

I'm probably alone and I hope I'm the only one to claim my prize, I find Chris Chan attractive and I wish she'd be my wife. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3mPSMqzFAig&t=2s Did my funny of him as a he, but I think her trans persona is sexy as f**k. I'm starting a business just for the sole purpose of getting my Care Bear paws on her. I can do all sorts of things to that, she cute and does the Trump Smile, all so perfect. I profess my love for her; she's my queen.

She's very autistic, I have 95% of the traits myself, I'm just better at hiding my quirkiness than my sweet honey bear can. She is the product of trolls and it the victim of trolls. If I was born outside of where I am, I could have ended up the same way with my Kidasuna stuff. I still could if I wasn't Teflon to those trolls. The same f***s hit me and try my resilience. I beat them with laughs. PS. I make a super sexy Chris Chan. If she was half as cute as me, she'd keep a Classic on hand and buy similar to keep the cute look and cute face.


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12 Sep 2018, 9:11 am

Saying silly and stupid stuff and getting blowback is just part of the internet. If you say the same things over and over again and get the same bad reactions again and again and can not detect a pattern or adjust you are not competent to be posting on social media and you probably need assistence. Of course there is a line where trolling becomes legal harassment.


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12 Sep 2018, 10:04 am

What people seem to often misunderstand about free speech is that it doesn't mean everything is allowed. If it infringes on any other persons rights, that isn't allowed. If it leads to self harm or anything of that type, it should be regarded as an outright felony (assuming it was cyber bullying, not just some disagreement).

I can't say I follow Chris Chan at all but I like to think this extends to all people, not just individual cases.