Just took an IQ test

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I don't think we actually disagree, then.

I mean, we're both talking about how people get stereotyped by low IQ scores as not having any useful abilities, and how people think IQ means a lot more than it does.

People with low IQs who show obvious talent or achievement aren't really transcending their low IQs, so much as they are transcending the stereotype of a person with a low IQ.

My disagreement, upon reflection, was borne out of the fact that it was possible that it seemed as if you were hinting that I am an adherent to the "divide and conquer" ideology--the one employed by the authorities. It was subtly presented as an ideology attributed to people in general, rather than me, personally--but it rankled me somewhat, nevertheless--in a visceral sense rather than a rational one. In a word, perhaps I "jumped the gun" a bit.

Upon reflection, I believe I should have qualified my disagreement, in the spirit of objectivity, since I very well could have misinterpreted what you stated.

Thank you for responding to me. I do believe in a spirit of Socratic discussion.

Just got a call from the IQ tester; we will go over the results next Friday morning.

i took a similar one with my Psychologist

Verbal: below average

information Processing: Below Average

Performance / working memory: Average/ low average

Nonverbal and Visual: Average

so according to my psychologist its consistent with a Aspergers/ HFA diagnoses

i dont know the number though,

The result of a test clearly reflects how you perform under pressure. It has mostly to do with strategics and training.

I took a Wais-IV. In reasoning and language I made 130, math 110 and the social stuff 93-4 something. When the median was raised, so that everything was within average, the social stuff went through the floor.
I crashed from nerves during the block design, - something that resembles a logic, I use to occupy myself with. I was surprised at that.
In math, I could remember LOONG rows of numbers by the sound. The attempt to reverse them however was given up quickly.
Furthermore I misused time on certain tasks instead of just moving on. Knowing, that there was a time limit was an absolute killer.

Now I have been training on the net. Over time my points have raised 4-5 points. I´m best at patterns. Time limit is still a killer, but not quite as bad.
I will be taking a Mensa just for the fun of it.

I´m trying to get over my fear of time limits. There is no end to how many exams I failed because of it.

IQ tests is a dicipline, that can be trained like running. Getting used to the different types of tasks, so you dont have to rediscover the mechanics of each type again and again, buys you a lot of time. Learning the strategics and getting used to time pressure simply allows for a more relaxed thought process.

Training is not cheating.
How would you like to run a marathon without having strategics and knowledge of your own machine (body).

Analogous to the Johnny Cash song, "A boy named Sue"; the ridicule I endured all my life about being dumb - intensified my desire to be smart.

Are people seeking validation of their smartness ?

My ASD makes me *feel* I will never be smart because I am slower than NT people , and I feel like I am mostly repeating back information based on the context, and not having inherent "smart ideas" of my own.

As one of my autism doctors told me, "You brain is like a computer, and we don't think computers are smart , do we?" It may seem demeaning , but he accurately captures how I feel.

What a jerk to say such a thing to you!
That AS makes you slower than a streetsmart NTs has nothing to do with stupidity!

You put your finger on it!
Yeah, that is probably why many aspies, and many others for that matter "seek validation" of "smartness", even if IQ tests most of all proves, that you´re good at.....IQ tests, - and that can be trained.

You have been made fun of because you are slower, and that has had a devastating effect on your self esteem, so you think, that you can´t think for yourself.
Speed has never made anyone wiser.
Thorough thinking has.

Einstein said: "Dont judge a fish on its ability to climb trees"

I got the results today. My scores were a lot more "even" than they were in the past. My verbal comprehension and working memory (previously called freedom from distractibility) indices dropped, but my perceptual reasoning (previously called perceptual organization) index rose, possibly because of the removal of the 2 "social"-based tests, Picture Completion and Picture Arrangement, and the addition of 2 more Aspie-friendly tests, Matrix Reasoning and Visual Puzzles. I did not receive my Processing Speed Index score at 15, but at 8 it was an 80. It's higher now, but is still my lowest.

Overall, my IQ seems to be much more balanced and level than before.

FSIQ 113 (same as age 15)
Verbal Comprehension 120 (dropped from age 15 by 10 points, but one test (Comprehension), a social-based test, was removed)
Perceptual Reasoning 117 (rose from age 15 by 23 points, but tests that made this up were different and not at all social-based unlike before)
Working Memory 105 (dropped from age 15 by 16 points, even with the same tests)
Processing Speed 94 (rose from age 8 by 14 points; did not receive score for this index at age 15)

Similarities 11 (dropped from age 15)
Vocabulary 14 (dropped from age 15)
Information 16 (same as age 15)
Block Design 12 (same as age 15)
Matrix Reasoning 15 (had not taken before)
Visual Puzzles 12 (had not taken before)
Digit Span 10 (dropped from age 15)
Arithmetic 12 (dropped from age 15)
Symbol Search 9 (rose from age 8; did not take it at age 15)
Coding 9 (rose from age 15 by 1 point)

So it looks like things evened out quite a bit.

The proctor says that I should be able to utilize my intelligence well.