I got surprised to discover how others see me!

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06 May 2014, 12:03 pm

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I have made virtually exactly the same realizations as you myself recently.

It's astonishing how clueless I've been about these things most of my life. Similarly to raisedbyignorance I was really surprised when I overheard someone I worked with closely once say to others that I was extremely quiet all the time, as I had just thought I acted normally because he didn't say much either (I didn't realize it was because of me he was quiet, as with other people he was always extremely talkative, almost to their detriment). I've also only recently realized that although I feel very sensitive and caring about other people inside my head, people have no way of actually knowing this when I probably don't ever give any impression of these things outwardly.

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I am a very empathetic and sensitive person, and I got really surprised they said I was like a robot. Whatt??? Where did it come from?? I am far from it, I am very emotional and caring. How don't they see it?



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06 May 2014, 12:15 pm

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I don't worry about other people's perceptions of me.
I just be myself and try to be considerate of other people.
That's the best I can do.


^ ^ ^ This

Interestingly, not only do I have a poor self perception (of how others see me), but also I have an equally poor perception of others. By this I mean, my wife and I will meet someone and we will get totally different vibes on that person. I am reasonably good at detecting competence (is the person reasonably intelligent, do they have reasonable processing capability). My wife can judge the type of person they are.



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06 May 2014, 12:44 pm

You're certainly not alone here. I just posted a very similar scenario to yours. Basically not coming across how I want to in social situations. Its very difficult for us but we can learn and ease the pain of it. I think the key is being honest about the disorder and not being so hard on yourself. I tend to beat myself up inside and this is counter productive.



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06 May 2014, 3:10 pm

Many of those things are basic aspie traits so its no real problem.
"I move too much and speak too fast and people don't understand what I am saying"
But this might be something you could ask for an example and try to improve upon, like speaking slower, be more aware of your body language and providing correct context. You may not be perfect but you can improve.
Most people will see you as different because you are, but thats ok.
Some will not like or trust you no matter what you do. You can do you best to accommodate but other peoples prejudices may always be there. And some will actively undermine and work against you. In some situations it is best to just cut your losses and move on.



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06 May 2014, 4:23 pm

Someone once said that I was like a robot.

I also find this hard to comprehend.


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06 May 2014, 5:26 pm

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So, I always thought others saw me as shy and sensitive and that I was appropriate, as you can read in previous posts. But I decided yesterday to ask a couple of friends how they saw me and here are some things they answered:
- I am like a robot
- I am cold sometimes as I try to "rationalize" everything
- when we are talking sometimes I simply space out
- I stare at people (damn it! I could swear I had learned appropriate eye contact!)
- everyone thinks I am weird
- when we talk it seems like I am not interested in chitchat but that I am analyzing everyone
- I move too much and speak too fast and people don't understand what I am saying
- I am naive and don't get many things I should

that was very surprising because I could swear my acting normal was perfectly normal! Guess what, I am more clueless than I had thought


+1 ... this is exactly what I go through.



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06 May 2014, 6:00 pm

babybird wrote:
Someone once said that I was like a robot.


A manager at work once compared me to a computer. I took that as a compliment.



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06 May 2014, 6:08 pm

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babybird wrote:
Someone once said that I was like a robot.


A manager at work once compared me to a computer. I took that as a compliment.

that's cool!
In my case I wouldn't take as a compliment :( I would like people to see me as I am ie sensitive. How is it they can't see I am sensitive? Does anyone here know how to change that? Hellooo world I am NOT a robot! How can anyone think so? I am totally so not robotic. Damn it.



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06 May 2014, 6:11 pm

It seems like you have lots of friends. I would bet that they like you just the way you are. Just be empathetic when something happens to them. Listen to them when they have problems.



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06 May 2014, 6:12 pm

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You're certainly not alone here. I just posted a very similar scenario to yours. Basically not coming across how I want to in social situations. Its very difficult for us but we can learn and ease the pain of it. I think the key is being honest about the disorder and not being so hard on yourself. I tend to beat myself up inside and this is counter productive

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Many of those things are basic aspie traits so its no real problem.
"I move too much and speak too fast and people don't understand what I am saying"
But this might be something you could ask for an example and try to improve upon, like speaking slower, be more aware of your body language and providing correct context. You may not be perfect but you can improve.
Most people will see you as different because you are, but thats ok.
Some will not like or trust you no matter what you do. You can do you best to accommodate but other peoples prejudices may always be there. And some will actively undermine and work against you. In some situations it is best to just cut your losses and move on.

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06 May 2014, 6:25 pm

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It seems like you have lots of friends. I would bet that they like you just the way you are. Just be empathetic when something happens to them. Listen to them when they have problems.

I have 5. Two from college, two (my best friends) that live in other places, one from former high school. But I feel lonely still because we don't interact much or do stuff (college friends have their own cooler friends and best friends live far away) after two months or so in social reclusion I start feeling lonely.
this is what one of the friends said. She thought I was having self esteem crisis attack (well, I was not) and said "so what you are weird? That is okay".



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06 May 2014, 6:32 pm

linatet wrote:
- I am like a robot
- I am cold sometimes as I try to "rationalize" everything
- when we are talking sometimes I simply space out
- I stare at people (damn it! I could swear I had learned appropriate eye contact!)
- everyone thinks I am weird
- when we talk it seems like I am not interested in chitchat but that I am analyzing everyone
- I move too much and speak too fast and people don't understand what I am saying
- I am naive and don't get many things I should


Honestly I wouldn't worry about a single one of these items.

As said earlier just try to be considerate.


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06 May 2014, 8:10 pm

Interesting - more information! I remember that thread I started asking how others see us, where you posted about it. I always want to learn how other people see those with our diagnosis. I have been told many of the same things as you - i.e. cold, rationalizing, spacing out, staring, etc. It never really bothered me, though, probably because I never tried to or expected to come off as normal. I never really knew how I came across until I started asking people.


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06 May 2014, 8:46 pm

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This isn't so strange. We often have a poor self perception versus how others see us.


What makes everyone think that others perceptions are so accurate? And our perception of ourselves is so wrong?


Unfortunately it's majority rules. Those of us who have flat affect are probably considered a whole host of things like angry, grumpy, rude, serious, morose, zombified, creepy etc etc etc. It's not your fault people can't see you on the inside being perfectly happy and content with your day. All they see is the blank expression and society has taught them that this is inappropriate and people like that must be upset or weird or something. Sometimes it would be the case that you are absolutely correct. Not that that will help you convince 7 billion people.