how many of you guys are under an adult guardianship?

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are you under a guardianship
yes 20%  20%  [ 11 ]
no 80%  80%  [ 43 ]
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18 Jun 2014, 6:30 pm

No guardianship. I do live with my parents, but I retain the legal right to make decisions for myself, such as whether to accept or refuse medical treatments. Though even when I was under 18, my parents always consulted me once I was old enough to understand what they were talking about.



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18 Jun 2014, 10:21 pm

Now that I actually know that a "guardianship" is a legally-binding agreement, I can most definitely say that I'm not living under one. Though I may live with a friend's family, legally speaking I'm an independent adult. :P



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18 Jun 2014, 11:34 pm

Legally speaking, I am not under guardianship, however, I still live with my mother, who cooks, cleans and does the laundry. I can drive and am going to school, but don't have a job (trying to find one though). I do not know enough about the world to live independently yet; don't know how to pay bills, get car or home assistance when needed, get myself to medical appointments, or even cook anything beyond microwave stuff, spaghetti and hot dogs. I think I'm still waiting for my mental, social and emotional maturity level to catch up with my chronological age.


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18 Jun 2014, 11:41 pm

All that stuff is easy to learn, really.

If you could drive, that's a big step. It's hardest to learn how to drive out of all the other things you mentioned.

These days, most people pay bills online. You just have to know how to balance your bank account. You're an intelligent guy: you could easily get yourself to medical appointments--just go to Mapquest or whatever, and follow the directions. Or get a talking GPS device (they could cost under $100), and place it in your car. Your mother (or father) could teach you how to cook, fold clothes, clean, etc.

Like I said, the fact that you drive at all is a big step towards independence.



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18 Jun 2014, 11:47 pm

StarTrekker wrote:
Legally speaking, I am not under guardianship, however, I still live with my mother, who cooks, cleans and does the laundry. I can drive and am going to school, but don't have a job (trying to find one though). I do not know enough about the world to live independently yet; don't know how to pay bills, get car or home assistance when needed, get myself to medical appointments, or even cook anything beyond microwave stuff, spaghetti and hot dogs. I think I'm still waiting for my mental, social and emotional maturity level to catch up with my chronological age.


I'm also not under a real, official guardianship but I live with my mum and she takes care of me as if I were a teenager and does all of those things for me too. I'm almost 30.



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19 Jun 2014, 1:17 am

I know I'm going to have to learn to drive eventually, but I'm extremely apprehensive about it, and for a long time I had a deep seated fear of driving. Right now, I'm not so anxious about the idea of driving, and if I really wanted to I could probably take my learners, though that involves studying, and I have an extremely hard time studying things I have almost no interest in. I've tried reading the learner's handbook before, and I almost always quit reading before the end of the first chapter. I have no idea how I'm supposed to memorize that entire damn book so that I can do the exam and pass it. Fortunately, I'm at the point where most of my friends are 18 or older, so I can have one of them sit in the passenger's seat while I drive. I actually have one friend in particular who loves vintage cars, and he's a pretty easy-going guy, albeit somewhat hard to get a hold of.

Wow, I think I just thought of a possible solution to my learner's problem. I'll make hanging out with this guy a goal. :P



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19 Jun 2014, 2:03 am

I said no. But I do not know. Mum is in charge. I am soon moving. I will live in a flat. that is attached to where a person will be. who can help. I will get also 30 hours a week. from a support worker. Mum will be in charge then also I think. she does decisions about support. but I think May be it is still no?



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19 Jun 2014, 3:08 am

KingdomOfRats wrote:
Kiriae wrote:
I wonder if "High functioning" really fits me in this stage. I can't imagine how I could deal with living all alone. The longest time was 2 weeks when I was doing a scholarship job and my parents went to vacation so I had to ride a car to get to the job(again - I hate public transportation), take care of the house, do shopping, laundry etc. all by myself. I was doing fine but it was tiring and stressing. But well. At least the house was clean as never before. I cleaned it once and it stayed clean because there was noone do make it dirty (the only room I make dirty is my own room, I visit other rooms only occasionally and I don't cook so the kitchen stayed clean too). And I saved lots of money. I was living on bread witch cheese and cheap microwave dumplings ("ready after warming up"), drinking water. :lol:

that isnt what not being high functioning means.
low functioning means have been diagnosed with a intelectual disability; which means have been profesionaly assessed in inteligence/mental capacity and a functional assessment, being on the low functioning spectrum has a completely different outlook and a very different presentation of autism.

those issues have mentioned sound more related to anxiety and executive dysfunction,typical sht to deal with for even so called 'mild aspies' but everyone has different support,levels of tolerance and coping skills.

Low functioning doesn't necessarily mean low intelligence/mental capacity.
It's a reflection of the level of functioning one can do with the world.
Having severe executive dysfunction, communication problems, body awareness or sensory problems can influence a persons functioning level regardless of intelligence/mental capacity.
Some low functioning autistics are more intelligent than tests indicate.



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19 Jun 2014, 9:45 am

No, but I am not living on my own or semi-independently, am on government disability...in-between MF and HFA.


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19 Jun 2014, 10:16 am

Marybird wrote:
KingdomOfRats wrote:
Kiriae wrote:
I wonder if "High functioning" really fits me in this stage. I can't imagine how I could deal with living all alone. The longest time was 2 weeks when I was doing a scholarship job and my parents went to vacation so I had to ride a car to get to the job(again - I hate public transportation), take care of the house, do shopping, laundry etc. all by myself. I was doing fine but it was tiring and stressing. But well. At least the house was clean as never before. I cleaned it once and it stayed clean because there was noone do make it dirty (the only room I make dirty is my own room, I visit other rooms only occasionally and I don't cook so the kitchen stayed clean too). And I saved lots of money. I was living on bread witch cheese and cheap microwave dumplings ("ready after warming up"), drinking water. :lol:

that isnt what not being high functioning means.
low functioning means have been diagnosed with a intelectual disability; which means have been profesionaly assessed in inteligence/mental capacity and a functional assessment, being on the low functioning spectrum has a completely different outlook and a very different presentation of autism.

those issues have mentioned sound more related to anxiety and executive dysfunction,typical sht to deal with for even so called 'mild aspies' but everyone has different support,levels of tolerance and coping skills.

Low functioning doesn't necessarily mean low intelligence/mental capacity.
It's a reflection of the level of functioning one can do with the world.
Having severe executive dysfunction, communication problems, body awareness or sensory problems can influence a persons functioning level regardless of intelligence/mental capacity.
Some low functioning autistics are more intelligent than tests indicate.


Yeah maybe its just in the UK you have to have intellectual disability to be considered low functioning...don't know though. I myself have never heard of that being what defines the functioning level of an autistic person, from what I've read and what not it more implies over-all functioning regardless of the lack or presence of an intellectual disability....though I think more commonly low functioning autistics have a co-morbid intellectual disability which adds on to that 'low functioning' but I've never heard of it being a requirement at least not in the U.S but I know diagnoses and qualifications can vary in different countries sometimes.


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19 Jun 2014, 11:56 am

Nope.

Moved out of home at 18, currently live alone. I have shared accommodation with friends and SO's in the past, but the calibre of housemate required for me is unrealistically high. Not only do they have to be practically angelic and quiet, they have to be tolerant of my strangeness and habits.

Although I do struggle I think my life would actually be more stressful if I was being assisted in some way.

My Aspie uncle however does need assistance. He now lives in an 'Assisted Living' scheme (after a lot of work, he was only diagnosed at 58 years of age) surrounded by retirees and other vulnerable adults, I supplement his care with regular visits to make sure he at least eating reasonably healthy and not forgetting his diabetes medication. He has been assisted in some way his entire adult life, usually by family and I genuinely think he would be at least homeless if not dead if left to his own devices.

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20 Jun 2014, 5:13 am

to marybird and sweetleaf,
obviously we cant officialy define what LF and HF are because theyre just widely used descriptions rather than medical labels but as far as personaly know LF and HF autism always were always seperated by an IQ of seventy,with either being on one side of it or the other,the IQ/ LF or HF mental capacity is what makes our autism present the way it does.
here are some links explaining it;
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/High-functioning_autism
http://autismcrisis.blogspot.co.uk/2010 ... oning.html

http://www.jneurodevdisorders.com/content/5/1/14
^a little into the review section;

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Although not part of the diagnostic classification and not formal subcategories of ASD, a distinction is also often made between low-functioning autism (LFA) and high-functioning autism (HFA). No consensus criteria regarding LFA and HFA exist, but low-functioning individuals with autism are generally considered to have an IQ below 70 or 85, whereas high-functioning individuals with autism tend to have an IQ above 70 or 85 (depending on the preferred IQ cut-off point of one or two standard deviations below mean


http://books.google.co.uk/books?id=DMR- ... sm&f=false
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low functioning autism-IQ is less than 70 with or without language delay


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20 Jun 2014, 10:09 am

I am... though I don't like it... :wink:


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20 Jun 2014, 11:00 am

My mom was pretty hellbent on getting it over me for a while. I knew what I would be in for if she did so I said no way until she gave up. I'm way more high functioning than my mom has ever given me credit for...and if it wasn't for her sheltering me so much as a teenager, I'd be even more high functioning. No way am I going to continue to let her micro manage my life anymore.



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21 Jun 2014, 1:33 pm

Hallowpointpaws wrote:
My mom was pretty hellbent on getting it over me for a while. I knew what I would be in for if she did so I said no way until she gave up. I'm way more high functioning than my mom has ever given me credit for...and if it wasn't for her sheltering me so much as a teenager, I'd be even more high functioning. No way am I going to continue to let her micro manage my life anymore.

are you planning to move out?



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21 Jun 2014, 11:25 pm

I'm living with my parents and brother. I sort of need to because I have a lot of trouble taking care of myself, let alone the house. My mom often describes me as being at the "lower end of high-functioning". My parents don't mind this arrangement; in fact, my mom prefers me to live with them because, as she herself admits, she is very overprotective of me and "[doesn't] care what anybody else thinks about it".

After my parents die, my eldest sister and her husband are going to take me in. They were very adamant that I would not live in a group home or with any other family members besides them.

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