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19 Jun 2014, 11:11 am

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How lovely about the petting zoo. I would have loved to find this in a shopping centre :) shopping centre are not nice places so this would have been a welcome distraction and I would have reacted the same way to it :)


What I wouldn't give to cuddle a lamb right now?

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it calms the mind and enriches the spirit

and they make me smile....which is hard to do



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19 Jun 2014, 11:20 am

I have a friend who gets on to me right away if I'm not wearing weather-appropriate clothes. But I do think she overreacts too much because I only sometimes wear a thin scarf if it's one of those days where the weather can't make up it's mind and I'm unsure if I'm going to be hot or cold (like when it cools down as soon as the sun goes in or something). I do hate being cold, I find it uncomfortable and makes me irritable. She says things like ''I'll take your scarf off if I were you when we get into the town, otherwise people will stare''. Well, people stare at me ANYWAY, whatever I'm wearing. The way I see it, whatever you wear there will always be someone who doesn't like it and will stare, even if you know you look presentable. Obviously I don't go out wearing things what make me stand out, but small minor things are nobody's business.
Also my friend starts panicking if the rain has eased into a light drizzle and we still have our umbrellas up. She says that people will think we are ''nutters'' if we're seen with umbrellas up when the rain is starting to stop. I don't know where she dragged that from because if it's one of those days where the rain goes light and heavy and stops for a few minutes but leaves the air feeling damp and cold, then some people are bound to be holding an umbrella up even if it has stopped for a few minutes. Besides, if shows that you care about your hair, if you're female.


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19 Jun 2014, 11:32 am

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Easy bro, that's just a "don't eat the cookies, cuz I might become fat"-problem. If other people's bullshite is more important to them than your well being, tell them to go fug themselfs. :P One big hint, if you are an legal adult, any association with people is by choice. :wink:

Yeah, but there's also that saying 'you can choose your friends, but not your relos'. ;)

I totally understand you though, as I'm also thinking this...they are just 'projecting'. What are they gonna do? fuss and fume for a while and then forget it so why should I worry eh?

Things like this also open one's eyes into the nature of such people though.

On one hand, they say they 'care for your well-being' and 'want to see you happy' yet, they deprive you of anything that contributes to your state of 'well-being' and general happiness because it is inconvenient for them. How bloody selfish and hypocritical?

I am not above calling 'a spade a spade' here, either.



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19 Jun 2014, 11:34 am

slave wrote:
ElsaFlowers wrote:
How lovely about the petting zoo. I would have loved to find this in a shopping centre :) shopping centre are not nice places so this would have been a welcome distraction and I would have reacted the same way to it :)


What I wouldn't give to cuddle a lamb right now?

sigh...........

it calms the mind and enriches the spirit

and they make me smile....which is hard to do

Oh dear god yes!

They are immediately uplifting for the spirit if you are depressed and they also have the ability to act like a magnet and 'draw out' all of that hurt and pain.



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19 Jun 2014, 2:14 pm

So you used the poor creature for a tissue? Disgusting. How do you think the lamb felt? Maybe just as overwhelmed as you? How about we wrench you from your natural habitat, tie you up somewhere in a crowded, noisy place, and let stranger after stranger come grab at you and dump their emotional problems on you? Or bawl into your hair?

You're not the only one. I don't understand how person after person on WP makes posts about how they are mistreated, expected to act unnaturally, and made to feel uncomfortable, then turn around and do the same to their fellow animals.



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19 Jun 2014, 2:26 pm

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So you used the poor creature for a tissue? Disgusting. How do you think the lamb felt? Maybe just as overwhelmed as you? How about we wrench you from your natural habitat, tie you up somewhere in a crowded, noisy place, and let stranger after stranger come grab at you and dump their emotional problems on you? Or bawl into your hair?

You're not the only one. I don't understand how person after person on WP makes posts about how they are mistreated, expected to act unnaturally, and made to feel uncomfortable, then turn around and do the same to their fellow animals.


I had similar thoughts. Often those animals are suffering stress from being separated from their mothers and their normal environment. I don't see any malice on the part of the OP though. More an oversight.



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19 Jun 2014, 5:34 pm

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I just remembered an incident that happened about two years ago as the most simple example of this.

It was the Easter holidays and I was taking my mother out shopping to the city plaza.

I'd just had a rough few days and was feeling rather emotionally drained and shattered. I was frustrated, touchy, angry and ready to explode into total meltdown at any moment.

Being the busy school holidays, not being able to find a close parking space, having to 'compete' with other humans for limited resources (which I hate and I would be the very first victim in 'Survivor'), my awareness just got lost in the throbbing sea of humanity, jostling me and stinking of their sweat and cheap perfume...I was on the brink of losing it and having a 'hissy-fit' right there and then.

Then, I saw it...in the middle of the shopping centre...there was a....petting zoo full of baby farm animals...baby lambs, calves, piglets, goats, ducklings etc etc

I mentally 'pulled myself together' and started to make a b-line straight for it, mother in tow with a 'what on earth are you doing? where are you going? speak to me...for god's sake...just SPEAK TO ME!'

When she realised what I was up to, it was 'oh no you don't...you're not going to do what I think you are going to do...that is for CHILDREN...little KIDS you are too old to go in there...grow UP! just GROW UP! I will not let you go in there...I FORBID IT'.

I totally ignored her and walked over to the lady who was running the whole shebang with a "I'm sorry to bother you, but I have a question. Is this petting zoo for children only? You see, I've had a rough day and I don't own any pets...nobody wants to talk to me and I feel lonely...I could really do with some 'cuteness' right now, honestly".

She laughed and said "I know what you mean. School holidays can be a real nightmare, can't they? I've had days like that and the baby animals are so adorable. Go right ahead and take as much time as you need. I'll be here if you need help".

So, I went inside, found a baby lamb who offered to use his wool as a tissue, I buried my face into it and just bawled my eyes out for about 5 minutes.

After that, I was perfectly fine and carried out the rest of the shopping trip as per usual (despite the fact my mother didn't speak to me for the next 3 days).


It sounds like your mother has a lack of empathy. :roll:

I am sorry that you have to deal with things like this.


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19 Jun 2014, 6:56 pm

I have had this in the past to, even now as a teenager I sometimes get told to grow upin areas but adults but with my peers they sometimes tell me to stop being such an old sod. This has not happend in quite a while but I have been in simular situations even as a child when I was trying to do more adult things and being told I can't because children don't do that.

Anyway thanks for sharing, the lamb story was wonderful! I think your mum was really harsh though but at least you felt good.



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19 Jun 2014, 7:16 pm

Your mother sounds as unsupportive of your difficulties as she could possibly be. And forbiding you to do something that would help you (going into the petting zoo)? That's unacceptable. It sounds like you need to spend a lot less time with your mother. Life is too short to spend it with toxic people who constantly berate you.


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20 Jun 2014, 9:56 am

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So you used the poor creature for a tissue? Disgusting. How do you think the lamb felt? Maybe just as overwhelmed as you? How about we wrench you from your natural habitat, tie you up somewhere in a crowded, noisy place, and let stranger after stranger come grab at you and dump their emotional problems on you? Or bawl into your hair?

You're not the only one. I don't understand how person after person on WP makes posts about how they are mistreated, expected to act unnaturally, and made to feel uncomfortable, then turn around and do the same to their fellow animals.

it really depends. Some zoos are exploration and I hate that but in other places animals are well treated and honestly much healthier happier and less stressed than their peers on nature.

when I went to a big place where birds are kept (don't know name in English), I went inside and a bird flew to my arm. A girl that was besides me said "how do you do that??" and she wanted me to teach it, but I didn't know what to teach. That was an amazing experience. autistics can have such a connection with animals!

I have nothing to complain about my parents at all, they are wonderful and when they make mistakes I know they tried their best. But sometimes they also worry if I am getting too far from the norm. Not because of what other will think but rather they think acting too weird is going to make my life harder because I will have more trouble finding friends, keeping jobs etc. So I hear a lot "you are acting like a child" or "you live in society, you have to worry about what others think". But I see their point and I think we have to find a balance, being true to who we are and our opinions and ideas, and not getting detached from society. I like that saying that is "if it helps you cope and is not hurting anyone, you have the right to do it"



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20 Jun 2014, 10:00 am

I think 'bird places" are known as "aviaries." This comes from the Latin for "bird." Their taxonomic class is "Aves."

You are quite right. We must strike a balance, compromise with the NT world.

I also believe, as long as one isn't hurting anyone, that any behavior, including stimming (if explained) should be acceptable.



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20 Jun 2014, 10:07 am

MOWHAWK1982 wrote:
Easy bro, that's just a "don't eat the cookies, cuz I might become fat"-problem. If other people's bullshite is more important to them than your well being, tell them to go fug themselfs. :P One big hint, if you are an legal adult, any association with people is by choice. :wink:


So what if you are a legal adult!! ! 8O :x

I am not a legal adult yet (even though I should be) but all my interactions with people are A CHOICE!! !! !! !

Nobody can force me to interact with anyone! Even at school! :P

Seriously, society is blatantly discriminating against children.


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23 Jun 2014, 8:23 am

Hmm, and they say it's us who are lacking empathy and Theory of Mind and are thinking rigidly?! :roll: 8O

I wonder if the same people would say something similar to blind people with sticks and dogs, people in wheelchairs, with hearing aid or just plain glasses?? Or would they still go: "stop using that, it looks ridiculous"?! :x



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23 Jun 2014, 10:51 am

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So you used the poor creature for a tissue? Disgusting. How do you think the lamb felt? Maybe just as overwhelmed as you? How about we wrench you from your natural habitat, tie you up somewhere in a crowded, noisy place, and let stranger after stranger come grab at you and dump their emotional problems on you? Or bawl into your hair?

You're not the only one. I don't understand how person after person on WP makes posts about how they are mistreated, expected to act unnaturally, and made to feel uncomfortable, then turn around and do the same to their fellow animals.


I'm really hoping this was a joke.



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23 Jun 2014, 10:53 am

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Hmm, and they say it's us who are lacking empathy and Theory of Mind and are thinking rigidly?!


I know what you mean. It does get frustrating, all this empathy thing. Sometimes Aspies lack empathy, sometimes we can be very empathetic. Sometimes NTs lack empathy, sometimes they can be very empathetic. It all depends on the person, the situation, the environment, the list goes on. That's the way I see empathy anyway, and that way it doesn't frustrate me when I see Aspies here believing so much about the ''NTs have empathy, Aspies don't'' stuff.

I am not referring to you by the way, I'm AGREEING with you. :)


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23 Jun 2014, 11:17 am

I hate it when people bring age into things, because it always feels like a criticism to me (may not be a criticism to others but it is for me). I try not to view nearly everything through the ''age-appropriate'' lenses, unless it's really significant. I especially hate it when people criticise me and bring my age into it when the situation hasn't really got anything to do with age.

Like when I was 16 or 17 my friend kept getting on to me about not wearing make-up. I said I'm not that bothered about make-up, and that if I did wear it on my eyes I would feel like I can't touch my eyes. Then my friend started moaning ''but you're not a small child...'' and I didn't even know what that had to do with touching my face. Maybe if I had a habit of putting my hands down my underwear in public then I might expect people trying to tell me that I should know not to do that, but touching the face is not childish.

Also when I was 14 my uncle told me to ''grow up'' because I screamed at a spider. I was expected to be grown up when I was a young teenager, even though I wasn't the oldest out of my cousins or siblings. I just felt like a double-standard to me.

I remember once when I was 15 me and my cousin was messing about with the phone in the office, and the head called our parents, and when I got home my mum lectured that ''I am not 5 any more, I can do better than that'' and all of that. Yes I knew she had a point. But when my other cousin (who was also a teenager) was reported for messing about with her friends with an elevator, putting something in the elevator and watching it go up and down or something and all pointing and laughing at it, my mum and her mum just rolled their eyes but grinned and said ''that's kids for you!'' :roll:


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