Do people like you LESS than you think they do?

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BirdInFlight
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11 Jul 2014, 9:32 am

I do feel it's true that people like me less than I think they do, yes. Even when they actually do like me as much I think they do, even that goes down the toilet eventually, as most of my friendships and relationships get into a bad place at some point sooner or later, and die. I have a very small number of friendships and acquaintances that have actually lasted in good standing, but those were with people who seem to "get" me and are probably very similar to me on many levels ("spectrum-like" people themselves).

One friendship that went down in flames, she told me a revelation. I had thought we had a nice friendship and that nothing was wrong. Then we had our first -- and last -- falling out about something that came up; I think it was about helping me move apartments. She went crazy at me, and monologued a total rant at me, telling me what a sh***y friend I am and how difficult I am and how problematic I am. One of the things she said was "You have hurt me a hundred times."

I was clueless. I had HONESTLY thought I'd never said a bad word to this woman ever, or ever done anything to hurt her. In fact, when I met her (she was a near neighbor) I was so glad to have made a friend that I consciously was aware that I didn't want to ever say anything or do anything to lose her. I really liked her and thought I was being a nice and good friend right back at her. I truly believed I hadn't done anything to upset this person during our friendship. I had even done any favor she asked, such as coming with her on a long trip to a vet for one of her pets, when she didn't want to make the drive alone. I'd been supportive and thought I'd given back as much as she had given me as a friend. Then she comes out with "You have hurt me a hundred times."

I realized she'd been getting more and more pissed off at me just for being me, all along, while I had been completely oblivious that anything was wrong.

It's enough to make you just not want to try anymore.

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11 Jul 2014, 10:44 am

Dillogic wrote:
I'm pretty sure the majority of people I've been around don't like me all that much.

But that's cool, because I know I'm not saying things people want to hear.


Well from your pic I'll venture a guess that fish like you even less.

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11 Jul 2014, 11:06 am

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I don't know what people think of me - so ... the question does not have much meaning for me.

How would I know they like me less? How do I even "think they like me" in the first place? Well, I guess a few people during my life have expressed particular dislike, but if they don't state their opinions obviously, then I cannot tell.

Basically, I divide people up into people I like and people I don't like. And I avoid the latter. As long as the people I like don't avoid me I am happy. I have no idea what their feelings are. I just know I like them and they haven't run away from me.

I don't read emotions - either mine or other people's - very well.


Boy, does this ring a bell, especially the bolded part!



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11 Jul 2014, 1:46 pm

I don't really presume that people like me that much to begin with, because I don't see how you can actually like someone if you don't know them, and hardly anyone really knows me. And most of the time I probably never really find out one way or the other, again because I don't get to know people that well.

But in general, I've found out that people like me more than I thought they did, not less. The only times I would encounter the reverse, is if a person was being very phony or two-faced towards me.



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11 Jul 2014, 1:56 pm

BirdInFlight wrote:
I realized she'd been getting more and more pissed off at me just for being me, all along, while I had been completely oblivious that anything was wrong.


You didn't do anything wrong. It sounds like you went out of your way to be a good friend to her. If she couldn't appreciate you for being you, she just wasn't a good friend for you. If she was upset about something you did, it wasn't fair of her to keep it to herself and hold it against you like that. Really sounds kind of like she was just throwing blame at you because she didn't want to return some of the favors you had done for her.



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11 Jul 2014, 2:11 pm

Don't know. Don't care.


The closest related thing seems to be the tendency of people to forget about me... because I never managed to rise above being a passing novelty at the fringe of their existence, to rapidly slide into irrelevancy with the passage of time.
Or at least I assume they forget because they just stopped contacting me or having anything to do with me over time.
Everyone.
All of them.


So... whatever.

I'm leaving my old attention-whoring days behind me.



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11 Jul 2014, 4:47 pm

Magnanimous wrote:
...The closest related thing seems to be the tendency of people to forget about me... because I never managed to rise above being a passing novelty at the fringe of their existence, to rapidly slide into irrelevancy with the passage of time....

Assuming that your comments accurately reflect your personality, I like you, actually. You bottom line everything. That's cool. Wish I could do that more often.


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11 Jul 2014, 5:13 pm

I think for me it goes either way. I have had some people like me much more than I thought or expected they ever could and would and I have had people like me much less than I thought they did as well. So for me it really depends on the person. The people who do like me are extremely loyal and I am to them as well, the others are not.


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11 Jul 2014, 5:16 pm

I think it's that way for most people, autistic or no.

Hi Skibum!



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12 Jul 2014, 8:12 am

dianthus wrote:
BirdInFlight wrote:
I realized she'd been getting more and more pissed off at me just for being me, all along, while I had been completely oblivious that anything was wrong.


You didn't do anything wrong. It sounds like you went out of your way to be a good friend to her. If she couldn't appreciate you for being you, she just wasn't a good friend for you. If she was upset about something you did, it wasn't fair of her to keep it to herself and hold it against you like that. Really sounds kind of like she was just throwing blame at you because she didn't want to return some of the favors you had done for her.


Dianthus, thank you for that -- I have wondered that myself, but had felt so hurt by that friendship that I guess I just took what she said as "gospel" and blamed myself, the way she blamed me. I really did think I was being a good friend, and her tirade at me was a shock. It did come about when she backed out of helping me move, which is somewhat odd...



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12 Jul 2014, 8:31 am

AspieUtah wrote:
Assuming that your comments accurately reflect your personality, I like you, actually. You bottom line everything. That's cool. Wish I could do that more often.

As autistic obsessions go, having an obsession with the meta is a pretty useful one. It makes existence more predictable... and thus easier to come to terms with.



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13 Jul 2014, 2:16 am

I take it as a given that people don't like me.

They are sometimes curious for a while.
They are sometimes just polite for a while.
But they never want to hang out with me, or just spend time with me.
And when they want me to be with them (because they're lonely or upset); they want me to drive all the way into town and go to a busy place, in order to be with them there.

So back to my original statement: These days I assume that they don't, and won't, like me.