Super NTs

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Yup. I don't like the term you picked, but yup. They exist. I know one. She is one of those people who knows every one, every one knows her and she is on top of everything that goes on. Further, she participates in a BILLION activities and helps out with every. single. activity. ever that her kids participate in OR that goes on at their school. AND she works full time. I have one conversation with her and IM exhausted. She throws parties every week and even manages to talk me into showing up for a few minutes at them every now and again. She also advocated for my daughter at school and circulated a petition to keep her mainstream after some other parents circulated a petition to get her moved to special ed. She is up there on my list of top ten people I've known in my life. However that is not to say that I think a "super nt" neccessarily has to be nice, this one, thankfully happens to be. I've met some people who probably also fit into the category... but were not nice. I think of a super NT as someone who networks and is active in social settings to a very, very high degree. Which this lady does. I'd be hardpressed to find... anyone in our town (no subdivision, but TOWN which is like several thousand people) who DOESNT know her.

I am well aware what the term normal actually is, maybe typical is a better word....point is autism is a specific condition, sure there is variation in it and different severity levels, but I think either someone has it or they don't, hence why it does not make sense to me to include it on the scale. I mean current information implies autism and maybe even other conditions are neurological differences that significantly vary from a typical neurology its not like neurotypical is the highest functioning autism and then it goes to lower and lower functioning. For the purpose of my post I am using normal in that way...since there is not another word for what I am talking about that I know of(but I know its sort of a vauge concept and changes depending on the context of the group or whatever). Also NT is not a disorder, so how would there be different 'severities' for it, I think NTs have varying personalities and some might have mental health issues but NT is not a condition so it would be useless to come up with a severity scale for it.

Last edited by Sweetleaf on 13 Aug 2014, 3:26 pm, edited 1 time in total.

What I'm talking about are people who are the opposite of autistic. They have excellent social skills, executive functioning, tend to be manipulative and less honest, rarely have their own obsessions and no sensory issues. People in the general population look autistic when compared to super NTs. Some super NTs are nice people and some are not. Just like everyone else. I don't really get along with super NTs. I'm just way too different from them and I hate feeling different. I don't usually feel that different from regular NTs.

Always remember: appearances can be deceiving.

Some of these "Super NT's" might actually be unhappy people who use their "social skills" to escape from their discontent. I've actually seen this occur. All of a sudden, you might find a "Super NT" passed out drunk, wallowing in his/her own vomit.

I like really extroverted people even if they are really different from me because they can do the talking and socialising for both of us.

This is an important distinction. Hypersocial people certainly exist, but what drives them and what that has to do with happiness is another question.

Consider Robin WIlliams--popular, wildly successful, rich, famous, superconneted, great family and friends, but desperately, tragically unhappy at times.

The things people think will bring happiness often do not.

On the other hand, the hypersocial person I know is very happy. He has a vast social network and enjoys making contact with people in the network continuously. You would not have heard of him, but he has probably been to dinner or had drinks with many people you will have heard of.

Maybe being NT is a "spectrum disorder" LOL

I have yet to see any situation in which people in general all seem autistic compared to individuals like you describe.

Also though manipulation and honesty really don't have anything to do with being on the spectrum or not.....plenty of people with autism can tell lies, and be plenty dishonest if they want and while people with autism likely wouldn't be as good at manipulation as a neurotypical due to the social issues, but its not like we are morally superior and incapable of dishonesty or manipulation.

Also how many of these super NTs do you run into regularly.....and in what way do you feel less different than regular NTs?

In what way would it be a disorder? Also how do you mean NT....people who simply aren't autistic or people with typical neurology/brain functioning?

If it is the first I highly doubt not having autism is ever going to be considered a disorder of any kind. If its the second well then....if its the second than it just doesn't make sense.

Um... I was trying to be funny - guess it didn't work out.

Being overly NT, actually, could become a disorder if it is displaced in the wrong areas.

If one is super-social, say, and does not want to be by his/herself, there's at least some pathology there.

I believe such disorder exists, or at least one that resembles this - dependent personality disorder.

Stew on that for a while. Interesting.

Its too bad that a reliable number couldn't be created on how much Autism one has, and then be able to take the numbers of parents and their children and compare, or analysis, or whatever that statisticians use.

My brother could be what you'd call "super NT". He is the exact opposite of me: he is very sociable, approaches people, can communicate and socialise with other people well, is seen as a leader by many others, is good at team work (he has intense football training too) and can socialise for hours on end. My mum is also like this but she is even better at understanding people and working out their intentions before they can make a move.

I met a Super NT once. A friend and I were chowing at a Chinese restaurant, it'd been a long day, and there was a momentary pause in conversation as we were both lost in thought. Then a flying woman wearing a pink cape and matching boots smashed through the front windows and landed in the seat next to us. The letters "NT" were embroidered on her shirt. "Super Sarah is here!" she sang. "There will be no more awkward pauses in conversation!"

For the next 30 minutes, we just couldn't get a word in edgewise. The woman was a mouth with legs. Everyone in the cafe gathered around to hear her brilliant banter. The waitresses set down their trays and sat indian style in a little semi-circle on the floor to witness Sarah's verbal vomiting.

Then Super Sarah's Super NT wristwatch emitted a beeping sound. "I've gotta go..." she said, "there's a retirement home in desperate need of my mouthy magic!" She stuffed a few eggrolls into the pockets of her cape and flew off. The restaurant manager charged us for the broken window. It appeared on the credit bill as "boring conversation fee."

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Pretty clever