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04 Mar 2007, 5:35 pm

Erlyrisa wrote:
I seriously considering driveing over a cliff with my daughter in the car!
-the only thing that stopped me was some other s**t

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Only thing that stopped me


it's the typical rantings of a drama queen.

A seriously ill person would have phrased it privatly off camera....

I had been having (reason for apparent self harm ie a self diagnosis)
When I just couldn't take it anymore .... because this and that

butt then again I have never heard anyone in such a desperate stuation, so even my paraphrasing could be a direct result of TV brainwashing


you sound like you're raving. cut it out! :D


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04 Mar 2007, 5:39 pm

Okay. Well according to that one, I see autism every time I go into stores and witness people's children have meltdowns (which is everytime I go into stores LOL). It seems pretty sensationalized to me. They are basically showing one view (based on these clips) and the most extreme at that. My first reaction is what are these children responding to?

I had a mother PM me on here about the meltdowns. So, here's what I told her. Imagine I lock you in a room and pump in sound at 20,000 times what you normally hear it at. You would beat your head with your hands or beat your head on the floor. Basically, you would do whatever you could in order to stop that. THAT is what hypersensitivity is like. Most of us have it to varying degrees. When it reaches meltdown, that is the effect our brain senses whether it is real or not hardly matters at that point. Maybe they should have filmed some NTs being exposed to sound like that while locked in a room with no escape. They would get the idea very quickly. People don't get it because they only see it from one side. That movie to me makes it seem like a behaviorial issue. That's just my interpretation of course.

Was it popular, Alex?



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04 Mar 2007, 5:46 pm

they showed a lot of clips of it on national tv and it's giving people the wrong idea!! ! we're not like that ! This organization says "1 in 150 have autism" which is true.... But more than half of those people are high functioning despite the fact that Autism Speaks will make you believe otherwise!! (the NIH says 1 in 300 have aspergers which is already half even if you don't count all the HFAs). This Autism Speaks organization is using us to get lots of donations from the American public. The American public is starting to think what i just posted *is* autism.


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04 Mar 2007, 5:51 pm

Well it makes me not want to get an official diagnosis or have my brother and nephews diagnosed (my main reason for thinking I should get the dx). My ancestors are all Germans and history there has taught me...well you know. Best to stay far away from people like that. It bears watching. Is it just an American movie?



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04 Mar 2007, 6:01 pm

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Well it makes me not want to get an official diagnosis or have my brother and nephews diagnosed (my main reason for thinking I should get the dx). My ancestors are all Germans and history there has taught me...well you know. Best to stay far away from people like that. It bears watching. Is it just an American movie?


it makes my blood boil!


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04 Mar 2007, 6:02 pm

alex wrote:
they showed a lot of clips of it on national tv and it's giving people the wrong idea!! ! we're not like that ! This organization says "1 in 150 have autism" which is true.... But more than half of those people are high functioning despite the fact that Autism Speaks will make you believe otherwise!! (the NIH says 1 in 300 have aspergers which is already half even if you don't count all the HFAs). This Autism Speaks organization is using us to get lots of donations from the American public. The American public is starting to think what i just posted *is* autism.

i just did a poster on AS in health class. the stats i found were different
what i got (from some goverment website) said 1 in 150 have autism and 1 in 2,000 have AS
what i am curious about is if your saying that they are giving the wrong perspective, if they are saying something you appreciate. or what?
no hard feelings or anything, i'm just trying to understand


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04 Mar 2007, 6:08 pm

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they showed a lot of clips of it on national tv and it's giving people the wrong idea!! ! we're not like that ! This organization says "1 in 150 have autism" which is true.... But more than half of those people are high functioning despite the fact that Autism Speaks will make you believe otherwise!! (the NIH says 1 in 300 have aspergers which is already half even if you don't count all the HFAs). This Autism Speaks organization is using us to get lots of donations from the American public. The American public is starting to think what i just posted *is* autism.

i just did a poster on AS in health class. the stats i found were different
what i got (from some goverment website) said 1 in 150 have autism and 1 in 2,000 have AS
what i am curious about is if your saying that they are giving the wrong perspective, if they are saying something you appreciate. or what?
no hard feelings or anything, i'm just trying to understand


NIH website:
http://www.pubmedcentral.nih.gov/articl ... id=1124717

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"This condition, described by Hans Asperger in 1944, has been the subject of increasing interest over the past decade. Prevalent in 1 in 300 people and 8 times commoner in males than females, professional consensus places AS at one end of the “autistic spectrum,” but it is not a mild form of autism. Like autism, it involves qualitative impairments in social interaction and social communication, and a restricted repertoire of interests, behaviours, and activities. Unlike with most autism, IQ is average or higher. The complex, sometimes subtle, presentation of the syndrome can cause the individual (and his or her family) untold misery."


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04 Mar 2007, 6:37 pm

heres my source, this isn't where i originally saw it, origionally, it wasn't a dental site, and they spelled asperger's correctly at the site where i found this origionally:

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The mildest form in the spectrum is Asperger's disorder, and true autistic disorder is the most severe form, affecting an estimated 1 in 2,000 children.

http://www.dentalplans.com/articles/4352/


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04 Mar 2007, 6:40 pm

they did a study in england and got 1 in 300 people in the UK with asperger's:

One study suggests that it affects approximately 1 in 300 people (Ehlers and Gillberg, 1993)


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04 Mar 2007, 6:41 pm

This royally pisses me off!! ! Why can't you provide a transcript so that EVERYONE can know what is going on?



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04 Mar 2007, 6:43 pm

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This royally pisses me off!! ! Why can't you provide a transcript so that EVERYONE can know what is going on?

your spamming royally, whatever you said
incase you haven't noticed, someone already gave you an answer!
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04 Mar 2007, 6:44 pm

ahayes wrote:
This royally pisses me off!! ! Why can't you provide a transcript so that EVERYONE can know what is going on?


you don't have to spam the thread asking a billion times. you already asked. someone will probably provide a transcript but get someone other than me. I don't have the time.


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04 Mar 2007, 6:45 pm

That gets me a bit angry. :?



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04 Mar 2007, 6:46 pm

ahayes!! ! R E A D!! !! !
Y O U G O T Y O U R A N S W E R ! !! !! !! !!

Erlyrisa wrote:
I seriously considering driveing over a cliff with my daughter in the car!
-the only thing that stopped me was some other s**t

-study the format:::

key words...
Seriously
Only thing that stopped me


it's the typical rantings of a drama queen.

A seriously ill person would have phrased it privatly off camera....

I had been having (reason for apparent self harm ie a self diagnosis)
When I just couldn't take it anymore .... because this and that

butt then again I have never heard anyone in such a desperate stuation, so even my paraphrasing could be a direct result of TV brainwashing


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04 Mar 2007, 6:49 pm

here's another clip


[gvideo]http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=2353742748522601450[/gvideo]


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04 Mar 2007, 6:49 pm

alex wrote:
squier wrote:
ahayes!! ! R E A D!! !! !
Y O U G O T Y O U R A N S W E R ! !! !! !! !!

Erlyrisa wrote:
I seriously considering driveing over a cliff with my daughter in the car!
-the only thing that stopped me was some other s**t

-study the format:::

key words...
Seriously
Only thing that stopped me


it's the typical rantings of a drama queen.

A seriously ill person would have phrased it privatly off camera....

I had been having (reason for apparent self harm ie a self diagnosis)
When I just couldn't take it anymore .... because this and that

butt then again I have never heard anyone in such a desperate stuation, so even my paraphrasing could be a direct result of TV brainwashing


that isn't anything like what the lady said though


The first sentense, that is barely differentiated from the original to me


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