Overly positive people

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This made me smile. Thanks for that.



On this subject, my dad suicided and two other people I worked closely with, both too young.
I can understand how no-one saw it coming.
I've noticed the only time my mood gets upbeat is when I'm in way too deep with the whole suicide ideation. I even start paying particular attention to my appearance which is unusual for me.
People start complimenting me and they assume I must be feeling good because of how I look and act, when the opposite is true. It's like I'm drunk on the idea that it'll all be over soon.
I've now told a few people if they notice I'm doing things out of character like wearing makeup and dressing with some form of co-ordination, I probably need help. I don't want to follow in my dad's footsteps.
You're right - you never know what's under the surface when people appear happy.

I think you hit the nail on the head here. It's an escape, distraction, or diversion from reality.
It doesn't seem likely to be an actual separate emotion that stands on its own, but the result of a combination of emotions or lack of which creates a certain environment of mental experience.

What I see people doing is diving deep into a mental state where almost everything is either completely imaginary, or very much twisted into an imagined state. It is very much disconnected from reality, and also leans heavily towards psychopathy. The world, and immediate environment is full of very real things to either worry about or feel sad about, yet people find a way to mentally ignore those real things and effectively pretend they either don't exist, or mentally shut off those types of feelings. They are effectively emulating psychopathic behavior ("don't have a care in the world") and getting a mental reward for doing so.
Their brains are able to use natural chemicals in order to shut down or bypass certain mental functions that can be described as inhibitions. This gives them a bit of a "high" type of feeling ("bubbly"), which makes it easy to convince themselves that they are actually experiencing joy.
People get a similar type of effect from abusing recreational drugs that also suppress inhibition and allow one to ignore a significant portion of reality.
I think that SSRIs have a very similar effect of allowing a person to ignore most real emotions and live in a state of disconnection from reality.
People who are keeping themselves in this type of internal delusion are very much accepted by the general public because it validates their own behaviors of ignoring reality.

I like to see things the way it is. Yeah I can be positive or negative. I can't stand people who are too positive they like to ignore every bad thing that exists in the world and they want to pretend but when I say things the way it is, they think I am negative or being negative. Like if I don't want to do something that I feel is dangerous, I am being negative to their view.

And then there are people who are way too negative because they find negative in everything and nothing can ever make them happy. My ex boyfriend was that way because he didn't like the fact his car wasn't a Porsche or the fact he didn't live in a huge house or have fancy pots and pans and furniture and to me I don't need that stuff to be happy. Yeah he can say what kind of house he lives in and what car he drives and what clothes he wears and that pots and pans he has and furniture and I wouldn't consider that negative, just him saying the way it is. Would it happy or positive? I think this was one of the reasons why he was depressed because he wasn't living his ideal world. I honestly didn't care that he wasn't rich or didn't have lot of money or didn't have a fancy home or car but he cared very much he didn't have those things. He liked calling this one neighborhood the snobs because the homes were big and nice and the homes cost over a million so he said the people there are snobs. I sense he had jealousy issues so he had to put people down. I am sure to him I was too positive because I wasn't too worried what people thought and didn't go making assumptions what people are thinking based on what I wear or what car I drive or where I am or what I like to do.

So I have had experience with both and I prefer in between.

The hive mind is the voice that tells people that they should live extravagantly while others suffer. It encourages psychopathy. It takes the individual thought and individual responsibility out of the equation.

The mentality of "the ends justifies the means" becomes easy once you have been instructed by authority and are simply doing what others around you are doing.

This is shown and proven by the Eichmann/Milgram experiments.

Definitions of positive or negative are both arbitrary and are conceptual, - separate from reality.

People like that drive me crazy, because I know they're hiding something. The worst is when I see a bunch of girls squealing over a glittery purse and a matching pair of stilettos. They jump up and down as they squeal and giggle.

I hate it when people say "you should see the glass as being half full instead of half empty" when what i'm actually doing is seeing both halves of the 'glass'. I think some people do that to protect themselves from the harsh realities of their life, and assume that everyone else needs that sort of 'protection', and some simply think that wearing a smile makes them a nice person who nobody can justifiably dislike ~ i really dislike the latter coz they want you to believe it's your own fault when the world hinders you.

Yep.

I see that the glass is twice the size it should be and should be cut to the right size to increase efficiency.
The "full" and "empty" thing just adds conceptual layers that really don't need to be there unless you're trying to twist the information into some kind of meaning that justifies some emotion.

I found it amusing when I first heard this analogy. Whether you see the glass as half full or half empty makes no difference. Seeing a half full glass doesn't give you more just because you see positive space instead of negative space. You still only have half of something.
You can look at this another way. If you only have half the emotion invested in something it's less of a tragedy when things go wrong. If things go well then that's a bonus.
In this way I prefer a half share, thank-you.

Yep. Actually what I would think is, I should have picked a smaller glass.

But what do you do as you drink from the glass? Keep pouring the contents from one glass to a smaller to a smaller etc until you drank it all? Or cut off the glass as you drink? The moment you take a sip the glass is gonna be too big.
And what about plates?