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The_Walrus
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17 Oct 2014, 6:02 pm

Point 4 is bigoted, and I think Point 2 is wrong - illiterate people definitely exist, even if they're pretty rare in the developed world.



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18 Oct 2014, 5:04 am

BuyerBeware wrote:
She's not saying that early reading causes Asperger's. She saying that they might be linked-- actually, she's saying that Asperger's might cause early reading (it doesn't in all cases, but it did in mine-- I memorized the stories I loved, and then one day found myself looking at them only to realize that the words made sense, however I was strictly a sight reader, not learning to sound words out until I was taught to do so).


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The teachers met separately with each parent and explained how dangerous hyperlexia is to a developing brain. A child's social skills are developing at a rapid rate at age three, and if the brain starts focusing on words instead of social skills, the brain loses the chance to develop those social skills. The teachers told the parents to discourage early reading.



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18 Oct 2014, 5:20 am

The_Walrus wrote:
Point 4 is bigoted, and I think Point 2 is wrong - illiterate people definitely exist, even if they're pretty rare in the developed world.


Sadly not as rare as you might think.

In my latest psych class, the prof said that if you count being illiterate not as 'unable to read at all' but as 'unable to read well enough to do the tasks a typical adult in the Western world needs to do', it's about a third of the population of Canada, and higher in the US. (Very much correlated with socioeconomic class and ethnic minority status, as well as community you live in, so that's why many middle-class people rarely meet an illiterate adult.)

I do think most middle-class kids would learn to read eventually without formal education. (Dyslexia and other disabilities being an exception, of course.) However, if your parents are mostly illiterate themselves, and your community has a very low literacy rate (I heard of one neighborhood where only 8% of the adults could read), there really isn't much opportunity for a kid to learn to read outside of school. Incidentally, this is the main purpose of Sesame Street. But a single TV show can't solve the whole problem - we need to make sure these kids have access to appropriate good-quality schooling. Unfortunately, so many times the kids who need school the most end up attending underfunded, overcrowded, poorly-run schools, because who cares about them anyway?



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18 Oct 2014, 5:24 am

Ettina wrote:
BuyerBeware wrote:
She's not saying that early reading causes Asperger's. She saying that they might be linked-- actually, she's saying that Asperger's might cause early reading (it doesn't in all cases, but it did in mine-- I memorized the stories I loved, and then one day found myself looking at them only to realize that the words made sense, however I was strictly a sight reader, not learning to sound words out until I was taught to do so).


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The teachers met separately with each parent and explained how dangerous hyperlexia is to a developing brain. A child's social skills are developing at a rapid rate at age three, and if the brain starts focusing on words instead of social skills, the brain loses the chance to develop those social skills. The teachers told the parents to discourage early reading.


I agree with BuyerBeware.

The passage is saying that if too much brain energy (or whatever) is spent on reading, it is a missed opportunity to use that energy to train social interaction. This is not saying that the reading is causing autism, the autism is already there. But rather that the brain development stages at that age would be better used to "compensate" for the autism. I disagree with this



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18 Oct 2014, 7:12 am

NT kids teach themselves to read?
Not judging by the fact that every single one of my NT students gets near a piano, gets told "the keys are in alphabetical order", and instantly forgets what the first 7 letters of the alphabet are.
Never had that problem with my autistic students.


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