Does it feel good to you when you infodump?

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14 Nov 2014, 9:58 pm

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Okay, it may be bloody stupid to ask this, but what the heck does 'info dump" mean?


I'm not sure this has been properly explained.

Someone mentions something that relates in some way (maybe very, very tangentially) to one of the most interesting things in the world. You mention a few things about that tremendously riveting subject, and this person says something that might be construed as interest (or at least not rejection).

Thinking about this fascinating, amazing and wonderful thing fills you with a kind of joy and you, being caring and compassionate, naturally want to share this amazing, wonderful thing and the joyous feeling that comes with exploring it deeply.

The obvious way to share the joy is to tell them about what you know about the subject, and it's so very good that you don't want to deprive them of even a single bit of it.

Sometimes (maybe almost all the time) you become vaguely aware that the person you are sharing this bliss with is, unbelievably, really just not that into it. Not really interested at all.

Tragically, it seems many people are deeply broken inside and incapable of experiencing the kind of ecstasy that can be had just by contemplating THE SUBJECT and immersing yourself in knowledge, understanding and appreciation of it. It can be worse. They may not only not feel bliss when they partake in discussion of the BEST THING, they may actually find it unpleasant. Boring, even.

To call this lovely sharing of the joy of information an "info dump" seems crude, but there is an aspect of it that fits--you are sharing information, so info is right and you are letting it flood out like refuse from a dump truck so "dump" may be right, too. Or perhaps it's the more colloquial "taking a dump" that this sweet release of data is like...

In any case, to begin the sharing and then be cut off is... so very sad. One does feel a strong discomfort, a sort of pressure to share the wonder and pleasure of the thing, and it can be very frustrating to have that release interrupted.

Outwardly, it might seem like a monologue, but it is based in a desire to share...



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14 Nov 2014, 10:28 pm

When the person shows genuine interest (or is good enough at faking it), yes. Otherwise, its embaressing



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14 Nov 2014, 10:41 pm

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The obvious way to share the joy is to tell them about what you know about the subject, and it's so very good that you don't want to deprive them of even a single bit of it.
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Sometimes (maybe almost all the time) you become vaguely aware that the person you are sharing this bliss with is, unbelievably, really just not that into it. Not really interested at all.

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Outwardly, it might seem like a monologue, but it is based in a desire to share...


I don't think this is really sharing though. It assumes that people will share an experience that you have when dealing with the material which they probably don't.

If you stumble upon a common interest with another person that is great, but to recite a bunch of facts with no thought to the discourse misses the point of sharing.



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15 Nov 2014, 1:44 am

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I don't know what I am but I must info dump and I also don't have many people to talk to, probably because of this. OP, how did you get the evaluation numbers in your signature?


I love your User name......epic non-fail!! !



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15 Nov 2014, 2:07 am

Adamantium wrote:
Misery wrote:
Okay, it may be bloody stupid to ask this, but what the heck does 'info dump" mean?


I'm not sure this has been properly explained.

Someone mentions something that relates in some way (maybe very, very tangentially) to one of the most interesting things in the world. You mention a few things about that tremendously riveting subject, and this person says something that might be construed as interest (or at least not rejection).

Thinking about this fascinating, amazing and wonderful thing fills you with a kind of joy and you, being caring and compassionate, naturally want to share this amazing, wonderful thing and the joyous feeling that comes with exploring it deeply.

The obvious way to share the joy is to tell them about what you know about the subject, and it's so very good that you don't want to deprive them of even a single bit of it.

Sometimes (maybe almost all the time) you become vaguely aware that the person you are sharing this bliss with is, unbelievably, really just not that into it. Not really interested at all.

Tragically, it seems many people are deeply broken inside and incapable of experiencing the kind of ecstasy that can be had just by contemplating THE SUBJECT and immersing yourself in knowledge, understanding and appreciation of it. It can be worse. They may not only not feel bliss when they partake in discussion of the BEST THING, they may actually find it unpleasant. Boring, even.

To call this lovely sharing of the joy of information an "info dump" seems crude, but there is an aspect of it that fits--you are sharing information, so info is right and you are letting it flood out like refuse from a dump truck so "dump" may be right, too. Or perhaps it's the more colloquial "taking a dump" that this sweet release of data is like...

In any case, to begin the sharing and then be cut off is... so very sad. One does feel a strong discomfort, a sort of pressure to share the wonder and pleasure of the thing, and it can be very frustrating to have that release interrupted.

Outwardly, it might seem like a monologue, but it is based in a desire to share...


FLAWLESS explanation!! !!
100% perfect!

I relate to this profoundly and it has been a source of deep dissatisfaction even depression in my life.
So confusing.
Why do people not feel the awe that I feel about the Universe??! !
How come they don't give a flying f**k about the cavitation created behind the claw of a Mantis shrimp???
How can they not want to learn about the large scale structure of spacetime???

They would rather engage in small talk for hours than converse about something of import.....and they delight in small talk....dogdamn how I despise it....how shallow....how pathetic.

Yet a brief comment about something truly interesting and their eyes glaze over.
f**k'm......f**k'm all.



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15 Nov 2014, 10:05 am

androbot01 wrote:
slenkar wrote:
having a one sided conversation where you just talk about information?.


Also known as monologuing. I love recounting information, but other people get bored so quickly.


You have to remember the average Joe only has 15 minutes of active listening without asking questions. Anything longer than that, people's mind wander, and they stop listening.

It isn't what you say doesn't have value or isn't interesting, you need prioritize what you want to say.

But my husband will say, "But everything is important!." Lol..



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15 Nov 2014, 10:27 am

Infodumping probably feels good, I suppose, but it's really frustrating to be labeled as going on too long about irrelevancies when trying to communicate something. Some of us are continually told we go on too long and watching people's eyes glaze over......and continually told to think about what the listener needs to know to understand and not leave out necessary context.

It's hard to give all the necessary information but not too much. And all that's necessary, for me anyway, is to ask for more information, or less, with some respect for the fact that I'm trying to communicate. Never trying to annoy through speaking.....talking is way too much work for that!



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15 Nov 2014, 10:28 am

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I don't think this is really sharing though. It assumes that people will share an experience that you have when dealing with the material which they probably don't.

If you stumble upon a common interest with another person that is great, but to recite a bunch of facts with no thought to the discourse misses the point of sharing.
Of course, you are right. I was trying to use hyperbole to make that a little humorous, but It is also true that that it feels like that.

I try really hard never to monologue at work or out in the world, but when my family or friends indulge me, it is really good, though it is sort of sad when I can see that they just don't get it. They will never share the same delight that I am feeling just in knowing this stuff. Tragic, really.



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15 Nov 2014, 12:08 pm

Info dumping is how I spend my days.

I suppose in a way it's a compulsion. If I can't walk out and info dump wherever I am, I feel I'm missing out, cause my brain is not fired up with motivation 24/7. The moment I have this craving to acquire information, much like the moment my brain feels I should write something, go record music, I just have to, otherwise mentally I just feel in a loop until I have done it and I'm as non-functional as they come.

I've managed to get it a bit more under control by always having the right tools around. An iPad loaded with music production apps, a notepad with pen and things like that with me pretty much all the time at least prevent me from deciding "I'm going home" when I've just planned going somewhere.

I've noticed the monologueing thing people mentioned here. I'm quite like that myself, though I've found it way more beneficial if I'm at home and able to type it all down. The last time that actually happened where I was mentally monologueing and ended up typing it, I ended with a 120 page document on self-analysis.... I must say, that it also meant I didn't sleep for 40-somewhat hours while typing (and it has nothing to do with being a slow typer ;) )



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15 Nov 2014, 12:31 pm

Quite feels good especially if it's a rant on facts, but it's annoying me sometimes, but not as much as towards to people's reactions to it. Especially when I'm serious, because of people turning away, their loss... I end up annoying myself if I found myself swaying my own topic away. And congrats to people around me; they just continuously encouraging me indifference.

I'm fine if they tell me to stop, or be quiet. But noooooooooo. :x I'm rather feel more insulted if they just ditch me away like that than them telling me straight to shut up.


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15 Nov 2014, 3:27 pm

The INTENTION might be sharing--but the reception might not be commensurate with the intention.

I, for one, would love it if someone shared information. I'd have to make an effort to "keep up," though. If the person providing information is not willing to entertain questions from the audience trying to "keep up," THEN his INTENTION should be put into question.

In order to convey information, there must be a willingness to engage in least a slight dialogue amid the monologue.