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Andrejake
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01 Dec 2014, 5:23 am

I've lied before and i still do it if it's necessary.
My problems with lying are two:
1 - It's too hard to keep the lie going on. When i lie i think too much about it and try to cover every single detail that would lead to someone discovering the truth. Just the thought of doing all the process is too tiring for me.
2 - I don't like to be someone that someone would think as a "liar". I keep thinking that if the person discover that i lied that person will have no way to trust me in the future. Like, "if he lied to me that time how can i know if he is not lying now?".



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01 Dec 2014, 6:01 am

I remember hearing once on a BBC Documentary - it was probably almost 20 years ago - that autistic children never tell lies or engage in make-believe. Clearly both of those claims are not true at all. Just one more of those false myths about autism like the claim that people with autism have no feelings for anyone except themselves.

Personally, I of course have told lies any number of times. But I am not very good at it and it does seem to create a lot of cognitive dissonance for me when I do it. Being lied to is almost always a completely baffling experience for me. In spite of a lifetime that should have me not believing anyone - But instead I tend to believe almost anything anyone tells me.


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01 Dec 2014, 10:36 am

I think the crux is in that word "never", taking it literally. I suspect that in general we lie a lot less than your average nt, and just dislike doing it, notice and are bothered when some little social remark is contrary to fact. That part is hard-wired? Everything else rises from the psychology of the individual. It appears that obvious fiction, not intended to deceive, "imaginary facts", is something else.


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01 Dec 2014, 11:16 am

I generally hate lying and hate myself for it afterwards, - but I can, if I must. I can manipulate too, if I have to, but I don´t like myself afterwards.
However, I don´t think anyone could get through life without a lie. White lies even make things go smooth and hurts no one.
I was taught how, why and when to use white lies, when I was 12, because I was a little too straightforeward.

I don´t think, I ever told a lie, that had to be "kept going". It would be too difficult and I´m very obvious when guilty or ashamed.


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01 Dec 2014, 11:57 am

LokiofSassgard wrote:
Are you honest? Have you ever told lies before? I ask because it's said that aspies and autistics don't lie. I find this to be a lie itself because we are capable of it just like others are. I still want to know what your views are in all of this.


I don't tell direct lies, but I have often "lied by omission" and not volunteered information. I would also try to avoid to answer the question and instead redirect. If backed into a corner, I would tell the uncomfortable truth instead of lying in their face. I try to be an honest person. I guess that's one of the reasons I emailed all my co-workers and telling them about my diagnosis.


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01 Dec 2014, 12:52 pm

I'm somewhere in the middle but it seems to be the other way aroud for me. It tends to be that most people are lying with me most of the time and costatly placing me into a conspiracy after another.

It gotten so bad that I am even making my own cospiracies that others are doing with me. I made multiple theories and keep on picking at others by every detail that they are doing.

Turns out I was right but my memory is at a gist with all of it.



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01 Dec 2014, 12:53 pm

I'm somewhere in the middle but it seems to be the other way aroud for me. It tends to be that most people are lying with me most of the time and costatly placing me into a conspiracy after another.

It gotten so bad that I am even making my own cospiracies that others are doing with me. I made multiple theories and keep on picking at others by every detail that they are doing.

Turns out I was right but my memory is at a gist with all of it.



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01 Dec 2014, 12:59 pm

I don't lie about little things that other people seem to lie about. I don't see the point. What's the point to anything if it isn't real or true? I have a preoccupation with genuineness. Why not just give the real answer for why you did or didn't do something. A lie might sound better... but it's not true. So why say it?
I do more of not mentioning something rather than making up information that isn't true. And I just do it when I think it's better if the person doesn't know something.


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01 Dec 2014, 7:47 pm

I can lie----butcha have t'gimme me a couple of days notice.