In therapy I learned about something called social cues....

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campboy92
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17 Dec 2014, 3:02 am

yellowtamarin wrote:
Interesting. Surely you must have thought that most other people had much more boring emotional lives than yours, if you were sharing everything, and assumed that they were too?


In my head, I thought it was normal to be completely vulnerable 24/7 and tell everyone everything about yourself and emotions and I thought everyone was like that but vulnerability for them is actually like a curtain that needs to be pulled that they need to pull, that's why people value artists so much cause they are doing that for them and why they "get into their feelings" by listening to music watching tv reading books and watching movies, it explores that for them but for me I'm constantly in that emotional vulnerable and feeling state 24/7.... I didn't know people didn't think emotions and feelings weren't cool. this makes sense why the book I wrote was purchased cause they could probably feel what I felt when I wrote it and maybe that interested them but It feels like It wrote itself and I'm just in this dream
Autism is so strange



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17 Dec 2014, 12:04 pm

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I wonder:
1. Is this something neurotypicals do all of the time? Is it part of every interaction with neurotypicals?
2. Is this done consciously or subconsciously?
3. Is it obvious to neurotypicals, when people don’t “play along”, by providing the expected response?
4. What other social cues exist, other than “test[ing] each other...and see how they reciprocate” or “show[ing] empathy”?

This also reminded me, it’s probably a good time for me to re-read, “A Field Guide to Earthlings”.


1) Yes, it is integral part to social interactions
2)Normally subconsciously, but you can develop conscious cues.
3) Yes, social cues are innate to all NTs, they have it from birth.
4)There are many social cues, whether or not they can all be listed is to be seen.

The best way I can explain social cues are like digital markers on optical media and DTV.

CDs use digital markers to play the right sound each time, which ensures the sound is rendered properly
If the marker is not present or not coded properly, you will get the wrong sound, unusual sound, skipping or the CD will be unable to play if enough markers in a row aren't correct or missing.
The CD player has software built in called a codec, which allows the player to read the file markers and data.

DVDs/Blu-ray/movie file use digital markers to accurately render the movie.
If the marker or markers aren't coded right or missing, you will get bad audio, visual issues, skipping, or an error message.
DVD/Blu-ray/movie player and has software built in called a codec, which allows the player to read the file markers and data.

Digital TV (DTV) uses digital markers to properly display the broadcast you receive over the air.
If the markers aren't be transmitted properly (due to whatever reason), are incomplete, or are missing, you will encounter odd coloring, other visual issues, audio issues, skipping, skipping with missing squares, just audio with no visual, or the blasted "channel not found" error message on your TV.
The ATSC (U.S. digital) tuner (which is built into your TV or converter box) has software built in called a codec, which allows the TV to read the file markers and data.

Social cues work similar.
Social cues are used to ensure message is received and decoded properly, so we are able to process the message as intended by the transmitter.
If you are unable to pick up or accurately interpret and process social cues, you end up decoding and understanding message improperly, thus not understanding it.

Those of us with AS, have trouble or unable to decode the message using these social cues, which leads to use not understanding the message as intended.

To put it simply, we either have a incomplete codec or lack the codec entirely.

Or as I like to put it, I am a Power/PowerPC computer in an x86/64 world.
(For those who don't know, x86/64 processors are what Windows runs on and are in the majority of computers. Power/PowerPC computers cannot run x86/64 code natively)


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17 Dec 2014, 10:49 pm

xenocity wrote:
Rocket123 wrote:


Or as I like to put it, I am a Power/PowerPC computer in an x86/64 world.
(For those who don't know, x86/64 processors are what Windows runs on and are in the majority of computers. Power/PowerPC computers cannot run x86/64 code natively)


To continue your analogy, since I can't process typical natively, my emulation is slow, flawed and tiring.

Sometimes it is worth doing, many times not.