What do you find confusing about the "NT World"?

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31 Jan 2015, 5:50 pm

- jumping from one subject to another without actually discussing any.
- discussions containing short sentences that make no sense and seem totally unrelated, such as:
"-Hey, trash.", "-A flower here.", "-You got there?", "-Got me.", "-Got a stone?", "-Rolling one".
- going to a disco when they want to met someone. The music makes it hard to talk...
- remembering details about other people. And talking about them. When they are not even around.



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31 Jan 2015, 6:45 pm

1.The general interest in sport and competition.Ambition I understand, but competition? Sure, ambition can exist without the need for competition.
2.That people say one thing and mean another....and everybody seems to know what is going on.
3. How can people NOT think logically and critically before they venture out in the unknown and NOT worry?
4. How can they not think and analyze?
5. Why is consensus so bloody important in situations, that doesn´t really require it, - as if we needed to aggree on everything to stay alive.
In the past consensus did keep a tribe alive, - and the mechanisms are still there, but apparently not in Aspies.
6. The interest in reality shows.
There´s probably more, but this is it for now.


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31 Jan 2015, 6:48 pm

Their extreme lack of interest in, aversion to, and inability to distinguish real things from imagined things.



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31 Jan 2015, 7:08 pm

How they're always ready to pounce on autistics about their special interests just because they feel like venting about something. How they're always ready to hate things they don't understand.


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31 Jan 2015, 7:13 pm

-I never understood mass, large-scale conformity. I don't know why there's always this standard or compliance that everyone must follow. Personally, I hate excessive structure.

-Their obsession with categorizing things. I understand that this might be useful but at times this gets really frustrating.

-Their inability to understand a subject yet decide to make a judgement about it anyway.



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31 Jan 2015, 7:28 pm

The way they categorize people and try to put them into boxes.

The way that people, mostly females say like 100 times in a paragraph and every sentence they utter sounds like this at the end?

How parents get embarrassed when their kids don't grow up to be the trophies they expect them to. How they feel uneasy that their same sex children have grown up to be the opposite in personality that they are. Ask my mum....she knows.


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31 Jan 2015, 7:35 pm

Hansgrohe wrote:
-I never understood mass, large-scale conformity. I don't know why there's always this standard or compliance that everyone must follow. Personally, I hate excessive structure.

-Their obsession with categorizing things. I understand that this might be useful but at times this gets really frustrating.

-Their inability to understand a subject yet decide to make a judgement about it anyway.



Good ones.

Categorizing into dichotomies is necessary for negotiating hierarchal structures.
If you are familiar with "bubble sort" in computer programming, then you may see how they must package data so that it can be easily/quickly bubble sorted into structures.



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31 Jan 2015, 7:45 pm

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-Their inability to understand a subject yet decide to make a judgement about it anyway.


OMG! I really have little patience for people who have an opinion about something they know very little about.



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31 Jan 2015, 8:03 pm

olympiadis wrote:
"bubble sort" in computer programming


Bubble-sorting is an interesting parallel. I've always been amazed at how people are ready to take a few aspects of someone and categorize them then draw conclusions about something totally unrelated. It's as logical as saying "that dog is brown and lives by the railroad tracks. I'll bet it's a Republican" or that's how it sounds to me. And then they won't ever actually go up to the brown dog by the railroad tracks to ask if it is a Republican or not. Don't want to have to confront the reality that their make-believe isn't real.

As for the hierarchy sorting, the first 1:12 of this video supports the theory that NT's are wired to recognize others based on status: http://youtu.be/zNxkWyhVJR0

She doesn't skip a beat. It is just instinctual to her that interest in another guy is rooted in status. Maybe it's scripted, but it looks like it is the first place her mind is going. For a woman evaluating a guy, it is about perceived status, and being drawn to someone who can increase her rank in the hierarchy.

Then at 2:05, back to the status and aaah, yeesss, "the more resources they have to offer." The underlying motivation is assessing how they will rank in the hierarchy compared to others. Not only is the shallowness of it confusing to me, but that they continue to embrace it as a worthwhile way to evaluate people.



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31 Jan 2015, 8:57 pm

I don't get how NTs seem to have so much sauve and finesse.

I just bumble along.



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31 Jan 2015, 9:00 pm

The masks they tend to wear.
You never know who they really are.


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31 Jan 2015, 9:08 pm

How they like to judge from a distance without even knowing a person or having met them.


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31 Jan 2015, 9:15 pm

- Gossip.

- Personality over skill in hiring and promotion.

- Obsession with youth and appearances.


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31 Jan 2015, 10:16 pm

Making assumptions
Saying one thing but meaning another
Lying and other duplicitous behavior



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01 Feb 2015, 12:05 am

-"Follow the leader", follow the 'cool guys' in hopes of going on the same position as them when doing so. Being unoriginal at most. Unnecessary conformity. "Keeping up with the Joneses".

-Not questioning enough in massive scale.

-Simply they care about people who's sociable, not people with pure intent. Same goes with job interviews; sociability over skills. If sociability is paralleled to one another, it's on terms of social status and background. So yes, their life seems revolved on social status and sociability.

-Regardless the attraction factor (internally and externally); if you're rich, famous, or at the higher social ladder, or combination between twos or all; you're automatically "attractive" to their eyes.

-Blind faith. Whether right or wrong. Even if it hurts them. Even if it kills them.

-Inducing unnecessary dramas on their partners; they see it as 'making a test'. Seriously, why can't they be just straight honest to each other?

-Flirting, 'sense of fashion', trends, gossips.

-Indulgent tendencies on scandals; usually for profit on the media. Like an addictive substance to them, without realizing it.


The rest are already mentioned.


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01 Feb 2015, 1:40 am

voleregard wrote:
olympiadis wrote:
"bubble sort" in computer programming


Bubble-sorting is an interesting parallel. I've always been amazed at how people are ready to take a few aspects of someone and categorize them then draw conclusions about something totally unrelated.


In their world speed is all important, so they use as few aspects as possible and pair them into dichotomies for sorting.
Being first is more important to them than being accurate.