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07 Feb 2015, 10:08 pm

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condensed seawater? LOL
Sounds like snake-oil to me


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07 Feb 2015, 10:21 pm

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condensed seawater? LOL
Sounds like snake-oil to me

Actually, seawater is marvellous when taken orally. Gives more of a kick than caffeine.


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07 Feb 2015, 10:23 pm

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At the markets this morning I came across a stall selling Magnesium Chloride as a transdermal spray. On a list of 101 uses for their product, number 11 was Autistic Spectrum Disorder. I was very interested in how Magnesium Chloride treated Autism so I asked the stallholder for more information. She said it removes Mercury and other toxic metals from the body and relieves stress, anxiety and muscle tension and thus improves the symptoms of Autism (and apparently the other 100 conditions listed).
She gave me a pamphlet, which had a disclaimer at the bottom stating that the information provided was not verified by the TGA. Or anyone, except the stallholder.
I ended up buying some - not for my autism, but for my aching joints. I will let you know if I become any less autistic.
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Lol. That s**t is hilarious. You should tell her that you were bitten by a warewolf and ask if it'll help with that?
Ask her if you can add your own testemonial. "I was a zombie, then I just sprayed myself all over with this and now I hardly eat human brains at all!"
Market stalls... what fun.



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07 Feb 2015, 10:27 pm

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Lol. That s**t is hilarious. You should tell her that you were bitten by a warewolf and ask if it'll help with that?
Ask her if you can add your own testemonial. "I was a zombie, then I just sprayed myself all over with this and now I hardly eat human brains at all!"
Market stalls... what fun.

I know, right? Couldn't think of a better way to spend a Sunday morning.


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08 Feb 2015, 1:20 am

Lots on an OCD forum believe that magnesium helps with OCD & that reminds me that I tried it for awhile & I didn't notice any mental benefits. Maybe it helps some thou but what helped my OCD was Neurontin/Gabapentin but that's another topic.


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08 Feb 2015, 1:49 am

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Are you trying to argue against reason, or are you just trying to justify wasting your money?

I wasn't aware I was arguing. I don't think I wasted my money as I use magnesium as a topical ointment already (prescribed).
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A topical spray ... My PDR shows that similar concoctions have been touted as treatments for eczema and psoriasis. Have you been diagnosed with either of these conditions? If not, then you will be taking an old-fashioned skin treatment for nothing.

I've been diagnosed with both of these conditions.
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And it won't cure Autism.

I'm aware of that. This forum really needs a sarcasm indicator.



then just type..............sarc/

like everyone else does to indicate that they are being sarcastic :roll:

you have been 'taken' ...... Fnord is correct



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08 Feb 2015, 2:07 am

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then just type..............sarc/

like everyone else does to indicate that they are being sarcastic :roll:

you have been 'taken' ...... Fnord is correct


Oh. Is that what you type? I've never seen that before. I thought about putting in a smilie but that seemed wrong.

What do you mean "you have been taken"? Fnord is correct about what?


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08 Feb 2015, 2:54 am

Raleigh wrote:
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then just type..............sarc/

like everyone else does to indicate that they are being sarcastic :roll:

you have been 'taken' ...... Fnord is correct


Oh. Is that what you type? I've never seen that before. I thought about putting in a smilie but that seemed wrong.

What do you mean "you have been taken"? Fnord is correct about what?


Fnord is correct is an absolute statement. He/it/she does not need to be correct about anything. Fnord is correct innately. ;)

Market stalls? I'm fairly sceptical about a lot of the rubbish in pharmacies. I also had a professor of child psychiatry recommend fish oil for my autism. I would have been more impressed if he had recommended snake oil. Renowned psychiatrists can be quacks too, quackery is something of a necessity for psychiatry in general to function.



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08 Feb 2015, 3:04 am

Hmm. The other side of the pamphlet reads:

"Magnesium deficiency has been scientifically identified as a critical factor in the onset of a wide variety of disease, from heart disease, diabetes, hypertension, inflammation and stroke to Alzeimer's, autism, cancer and many more."

There you go. It's scientifically identified.

It also says it "helps relieve stress, anxiety, mood disorders, depression, irritability and fatigue."

If it helps with those, I may very well appear less autistic.

Maybe the 'snake-oil' lady is right. :D


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08 Feb 2015, 3:09 am

Do you know what makes me seem less autistic? A sharp blow to the head and sudden loss of consciousnesses. Nobody can even tell I'm autistic then. I should try it the next time I'm at a party.

I have to continually bite my tongue when people I know produce homeopathic remedies. I can't help but smile.



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08 Feb 2015, 3:20 am

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Do you know what makes me seem less autistic? A sharp blow to the head and sudden loss of consciousnesses. Nobody can even tell I'm autistic then. I should try it the next time I'm at a party.

I have to continually bite my tongue when people I know produce homeopathic remedies. I can't help but smile.


Yeah, you can't help but smile. When I smile I feel less autistic, and there's less risk of brain damage. I'm gonna stick with the smiling.


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08 Feb 2015, 5:15 am

I'm 99.999% sure "I'll let you know if I become any less autistic" was highly sarcastic in nature.

In any case, they'll say anything to sell their product. I'd bet money that spray is entirely useless for everything listed.


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08 Feb 2015, 11:04 am

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I also had a professor of child psychiatry recommend fish oil for my autism.


When I was a kid, my mother frequently made me take cod liver oil.

For some reason, ever since then, I have got along just fine without it.



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08 Feb 2015, 3:01 pm

I was low in B12 and Mg (official blood lab results). After improving my levels I found a significant improvement in my frustration tolerance.
I take 1000mg B12 tablets twice a week. I take Mg supplements about once a week and try to eat natural sources like sunflower seeds and shellfish.
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08 Feb 2015, 3:26 pm

Raleigh wrote:
At the markets this morning I came across a stall selling Magnesium Chloride as a transdermal spray. On a list of 101 uses for their product, number 11 was Autistic Spectrum Disorder. I was very interested in how Magnesium Chloride treated Autism so I asked the stallholder for more information. She said it removes Mercury and other toxic metals from the body and relieves stress, anxiety and muscle tension and thus improves the symptoms of Autism (and apparently the other 100 conditions listed).
She gave me a pamphlet, which had a disclaimer at the bottom stating that the information provided was not verified by the TGA. Or anyone, except the stallholder.
I ended up buying some - not for my autism, but for my aching joints. I will let you know if I become any less autistic.
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A few of the list do appear to appear to be possibly linked to a possible lack of Magnesium. Quite a few are very vague and some of them would appear to rewriting the laws of chemistry :)
Whilst it may help with T2 diabetes, if insulin resistance is down to Magnesium deficiency, it will do nothing for T2 or MODY.
It's unclear what they mean by "cholesterol". If they mean reducing this can itself cause peripheral and CNS neuropathy.
Some of the stuff reads like snake oil.



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15 Feb 2015, 11:26 pm

Raleigh wrote:
At the markets this morning I came across a stall selling Magnesium Chloride as a transdermal spray. On a list of 101 uses for their product, number 11 was Autistic Spectrum Disorder. I was very interested in how Magnesium Chloride treated Autism so I asked the stallholder for more information. She said it removes Mercury and other toxic metals from the body and relieves stress, anxiety and muscle tension and thus improves the symptoms of Autism (and apparently the other 100 conditions listed).
She gave me a pamphlet, which had a disclaimer at the bottom stating that the information provided was not verified by the TGA. Or anyone, except the stallholder.
I ended up buying some - not for my autism, but for my aching joints. I will let you know if I become any less autistic.
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Apparently this miracle product can help with a heart attack (condition 48), if only everyone had this handy "Don't have a defibrillator, don't worry i have magnesium spray".

Seriously though my father in law has navigated the ridiculous hurdles in Australia to legitimately claim any medical benefits to products at a market stall. He used to sell Essential oils, with known and scientifically proven benefits (noting there are some people that claim these oils do more than they actually do), but couldn't advertise them as he couldn't afford to go through the very expensive process of making sure his specific products had those benefit. This person is really playing with fire if they are reported to the TGA, huge fines and possible jail time (in extreme cases, never actually heard of one but know its possible) are the penalties.