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yungsavage
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23 Apr 2017, 10:52 am

ElabR8Aspie wrote:
^ASD is not a disability,it's different way of thinking,evolution.

What is this guy on? Seriously, this guy is always posting the weirdest, most outlandish stuff on every thread. If you aren't trolling, then I actually feel bad for you.

Sorry buddy, but thats not how science works. Tests on people with ASD show that their brains are shaped differently than NTs, so no, it is not a "way of thinking".


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23 Apr 2017, 10:54 am

ElabR8Aspie wrote:
^ASD is not a disability,it's different way of thinking,evolution.

People like this are the reason why "you are autistic" is now a popular insult that 10 year olds are saying in public.


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23 Apr 2017, 11:09 am

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To touch on what earlier respondents said, eccentricity, as Tony Attwood puts it, is the ideal (and realistic) goal for every individual living with asperger's; it is having a few oddities, but to an extent that one is simply "odd" or "quirky": the symptoms are notable, but they don't interfere with one's ability to have a healthy lifestyle (socially and overall practically).


Interesting. Before my diagnosis, I used "charmingly eccentric" as a euphemism for people with Aspergian traits.



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23 Apr 2017, 11:19 am

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In our modern, social era, ASD is a disability. In the olden days of foraging and seeking out new habitats and ways of surviving, it's a plus.

ASD also impacts areas that are not social-related. I'm not sure if living in the anti-social olden days of foraging and seeking new habits will necessarily be better.

Food texture issues are common with ASD. What if all the food in the area have textures that one can't tolerate?

Issues with directions are also common in ASD. That will be quite problematic if one goes to forage, and gets lost.

Those are just two examples.


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23 Apr 2017, 11:20 am

Different way of thinking and disability are not necessarily exclusive of each other. And autistics are often impaired by their autism and its so called co-morbids such as executive functioning and peoples reaction to thier autism.


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23 Apr 2017, 11:31 am

ECCENTRICITY
adjective
(of a person or their behavior) unconventional and slightly strange:
"my favorite aunt is very eccentric"
synonyms: unconventional · uncommon · abnormal · irregular · aberrant
technical:
(of a thing) not placed centrally or not having its axis or other part placed centrally.


What strikes me about this definition is its basis in comparison to Typical behavior. "Society needs us to be productive members", but xenophobia is a primal instinct for them. So they only grudgingly accept us if we're making an effort to be like them.



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23 Apr 2017, 4:07 pm

If your not an NT,don't fit into this world,go against the grain,buck the trend and not conform to societies ways and expectations,you have a disability or some other label.

Again,i don't see ASD as a disability,but someone different,unique,special and with a gift.
Spiritually wise,the indigo children,the next generation.

I have met a few and they shine with more heart and soul,than the common sheep on this planet.

Labels are a cash cow.

And that's my view and imo.


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23 Apr 2017, 4:27 pm

248RPA wrote:
redrobin62 wrote:
In our modern, social era, ASD is a disability. In the olden days of foraging and seeking out new habitats and ways of surviving, it's a plus.

ASD also impacts areas that are not social-related. I'm not sure if living in the anti-social olden days of foraging and seeking new habits will necessarily be better.

Food texture issues are common with ASD. What if all the food in the area have textures that one can't tolerate?

Issues with directions are also common in ASD. That will be quite problematic if one goes to forage, and gets lost.

Those are just two examples.


Back in the foraging days, one's ability to be extremely resilient and think out the box was necessary for survival. If the texture of a fruit or vegetable was not to one's liking, you simply moved on to the next till you found something more to your tastes. That's the resiliency - the push to survive would've led one to carefully experiment will all different types of edibles, carefully categorizing and perhaps stockpiling each for future use. It's what has allowed eccentrics like billy barr, The Snow Guardian of the Rockies, to live alone in the mountains for 40 years doing research.

Issues with directions are common with people with today's severe ASD, otherwise spatial awareness and a deep concentration on one's surrounding would've been detrimental for survival back then. It's why extreme sensitivity to light and sound was important - this helped with detecting changes in the environment as well as the fact we often think in black & white. Survival meant not giving a chance to an approaching animal or human. They could mean well, or they could mean you harm, but you're not going to chance it by sticking around. Fight or flight? Flight was preferable given the fact the precursors to those living with autism wouldn't have been able to defend themselves against a horde of attackers.

Here are a few links to the Solitary Forager Hypothesis which explains it in further detail.

http://www.care2.com/causes/the-autism- ... hesis.html

http://www.observedimpulse.com/2011/02/ ... utism.html



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23 Apr 2017, 6:45 pm

The truth is that we are a social species, and in other social species any individual in the group that isn't able to participate usually meets a bad end. Social skills have always been important to our species' survival, perhaps even more so in the past than nowadays.

"NOW this is the law of the jungle, as old and as true as the sky, And the wolf that shall keep it may prosper, but the wolf that shall break it must die. As the creeper that girdles the tree trunk, the law runneth forward and back; For the strength of the pack is the wolf, and the strength of the wolf is the pack."

And anyone who forgets that is tiger-food.


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23 Apr 2017, 11:45 pm

ElabR8Aspie wrote:
the indigo children

Oh f*****g hell.

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Labels are a cash cow.

It's losing the government money.



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24 Apr 2017, 4:21 am

iliketrees wrote:
ElabR8Aspie wrote:
the indigo children

Oh f*****g hell.


You think,there for you are,your own singular belief system and quick to dispel others.
Look outside the square and believe less on what you don't see,less on what you do see.

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iliketrees wrote:
It's losing the government money.


Blinkers off,it isn't.


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24 Apr 2017, 4:40 am

The very same features are often typical for the highly gifted.

Aspergers/autism comes in, where handicaps become evident: Learning-difficulties, proprioceptive problems (balance, difficulty in handwriting and other), sense of direction, sensory confusion, over sensitivity to light, sound, touch, consistence of food etc. etc. etc.


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24 Apr 2017, 4:53 am

Jensen wrote:
The very same features are often typical for the highly gifted.


Agreed.


Jensen wrote:
Aspergers/autism comes in, where handicaps become evident: Learning-difficulties, proprioceptive problems (balance, difficulty in handwriting and other), sense of direction, sensory confusion, over sensitivity to light, sound, touch, consistence of food etc. etc. etc.


All i've which i've suffered,it starts at home imo.
And i mean where you feel comfortable and yourself,for me nature and becoming a fringe dweller.
Environment and where you feel at home,is a starting point,well,a start point,to nutting out a work in progress.


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24 Apr 2017, 11:03 am

ElabR8Aspie wrote:
You think,there for you are,your own singular belief system and quick to dispel others.
Look outside the square and believe less on what you don't see,less on what you do see.

I haven't a clue what you just said.

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Blinkers off,it isn't.

How is giving disability benefits profitable? Providing free services? It's a huge area of spending, they want as few people as possible classified as disabled, not as much as possible.



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24 Apr 2017, 12:38 pm

I just got diagnosed with aspergers like two days ago and I am wanting to talk to other autistic people