Does Our Depression Come From Feeling Unloved / Shame ?

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TheCoolStoryBro
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11 Mar 2015, 11:24 pm

Being unloved and shamed.
This is exactly where my depression comes from.
It is the only place that my depression comes from.

I try to tell people this, and they tell me to get professional help and take medication.
I have been doing that for my entire life, and it does not work one bit.

The only thing that works is distracting myself with entertainment.
Video games, shows, music, reading, etc.

But, those are all temporary distractions that get boring after a little while.
I am always craving positive social interaction, but it is insanely hard to get!

Just going to the grocery store and seeing and hearing all the people out there just kills me inside.
When I am at home, I cannot even stand hearing neighbors speak from far away, I feel like they are mocking me!

If only someone could just like me. Just one freaking person! Nope.



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12 Mar 2015, 4:01 am

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Thanks for sharing that link. I feel that this, while accurate, has a very NT-perspective. It lists the aspie traits the scientific literature is aware of and explains how they relate to depression. That is indeed helpful, but I feel like some key element is missing.

I'm not saying the "unloved/shame" element from the NYT article is it, though. I'm just not sure *what* it is. It's interesting to read different people's perspectives here to get a sense of how we think through these problems and what resonates with us, and what helps us. I do agree we will have different answers, but I like that we are exploring these issues together so we can see where we overlap.


I thought another addition would be good. Yes, it has NT-perspective, as you wrote because an NT wrote it. More causes that can cause depression is, of being more prone to bullying, for example. Many are not even treated like a living being because of not being the same way as those who cause that pain. I could list more, but my point is, that there are many many things which can cause depression in an individual. This case is with being on the spectrum. It can happen when there are too many bad things someone cannot handle, or unresolved problems.

The case of being unloved, a child on the spectrum might not be aware of it, or just not realise of his/her situation because of not knowing how it is outside his/her situation. However, the individual can take on the negativity, but still wondering "What is wrong?". That child will grow up without self-esteem, and depression along other things can happen at some point.

Another case, it could be that , there is a child. That child actually does have a family, but for whatever reason, for things like miscommunicaton, misunderstanding with the family...Reasons like that, the child because of not knowing the social protocol, could feel unloved. In this case is not true, however, because that child does have a family, and they love him/her.

Depression has different causes for each individual, because everybody has different experiences, and that is why it can manifest in a different way.



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12 Mar 2015, 4:17 am

Sherry221B wrote:
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Depression has different causes for each individual, because everybody has different experiences, and that is why it can manifest in a different way.


Yes, you're right -- this is a complex subject. I'm glad we're talking about it together, though. It helps me a lot to see how other people see these issues. I hope it helps other people, too.

TheCoolStoryBro wrote:
If only someone could just like me. Just one freaking person! Nope.


Dude, I wish I knew you. You sound interesting. I'm just saying -- maybe it's not you, it's the people you know.

Prof_Pretorius wrote:
No, our depression comes from people posting idiotic counting threads on this website .....


This made me laugh a lot. :lol:

I get the social anxiety, like in the grocery store, too -- people make me worried and anxious.


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12 Mar 2015, 5:13 am

dryope wrote:
Sherry221B wrote:

TheCoolStoryBro wrote:
If only someone could just like me. Just one freaking person! Nope.


Dude, I wish I knew you. You sound interesting. I'm just saying -- maybe it's not you, it's the people you know.


Quoted message deleted? :?



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12 Mar 2015, 6:06 am

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I do not know you, but I think there is someone who can like you: yourself. Happiness comes from within and it is not healthy to depend on others for it; it is not the way to obtain true happiness.



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12 Mar 2015, 6:49 am

Sherry221B wrote:
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I do not know you, but I think there is someone who can like you: yourself. Happiness comes from within and it is not healthy to depend on others for it; it is not the way to obtain true happiness.


I understand your reason for deleting.
You don't know me. I figured that could be the reason almost immediately.
I don't know you either.

I do like myself.
I just have suffering from this one problem. People.
The rest of my life is fine.



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12 Mar 2015, 6:53 am

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I understand your reason for deleting.
You don't know me. I figured that could be the reason almost immediately.
I don't know you either.

I do like myself.
I just have suffering from this one problem.
The rest of my life is fine.


What deleting? :?



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12 Mar 2015, 7:14 am

Sherry221B wrote:
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I understand your reason for deleting.
You don't know me. I figured that could be the reason almost immediately.
I don't know you either.

I do like myself.
I just have suffering from this one problem.
The rest of my life is fine.


What deleting? :?


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dryope wrote:
Sherry221B wrote:
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Depression has different causes for each individual, because everybody has different experiences, and that is why it can manifest in a different way.

TheCoolStoryBro says:
This is where I realized something. Who wrote this? The quote box didn't say who.


Sherry221B wrote:
Yes, you're right -- this is a complex subject. I'm glad we're talking about it together, though. It helps me a lot to see how other people see these issues. I hope it helps other people, too.

TheCoolStoryBro wrote:
If only someone could just like me. Just one freaking person! Nope.


Sherry221B wrote:
Dude, I wish I knew you. You sound interesting. I'm just saying -- maybe it's not you, it's the people you know.

Prof_Pretorius wrote:
No, our depression comes from people posting idiotic counting threads on this website .....


This made me laugh a lot. :lol:

I get the social anxiety, like in the grocery store, too -- people make me worried and anxious.


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Oh wait! I see what happened there! LOL! dryope said that! Not you!
The quote box clearly said that Sherry221B said that.
Some kind of error in the quote box display?
Haha! My bad!



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12 Mar 2015, 7:34 am

Yes, your "bad". You should think what you say/write before making such claims, and making things up that I did not even write. I get that you did not like what I wrote, but there is no need to get so upset about it, and so hostile, ok? You are just like that other one who had that exaggerated bad reaction over something normal. This case was unwanted advice....Anyway, there is no need to make such a big deal out of it. For obvious reasons, I am going to avoid you, because I do not want unnecessary problems.



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12 Mar 2015, 7:38 am

Sherry221B wrote:
Yes, your "bad". You should think what you say/write before making such claims, and making things up that I did not even write. I get that you did not like what I wrote, but there is no need to get so upset about it, and so hostile, ok? You are just like that other one who had that exaggerated bad reaction over something normal. This case was unwanted advice....Anyway, there is no need to make such a big deal out of it. For obvious reasons, I am going to avoid you, because I do not want unnecessary problems.


:?

I have no idea what you are talking about.

I did not make up anything.

I did not hate on anything you wrote.

I was not upset, or hostile towards you.

Do whatever you want.

I will not talk with you.



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12 Mar 2015, 7:46 am

This is dryope's post.

I got confused when I saw it.

Embarrassing :oops:

dryope wrote:
Sherry221B wrote:
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Depression has different causes for each individual, because everybody has different experiences, and that is why it can manifest in a different way.


Yes, you're right -- this is a complex subject. I'm glad we're talking about it together, though. It helps me a lot to see how other people see these issues. I hope it helps other people, too.

TheCoolStoryBro wrote:
If only someone could just like me. Just one freaking person! Nope.


Dude, I wish I knew you. You sound interesting. I'm just saying -- maybe it's not you, it's the people you know.

Prof_Pretorius wrote:
No, our depression comes from people posting idiotic counting threads on this website .....


This made me laugh a lot. :lol:

I get the social anxiety, like in the grocery store, too -- people make me worried and anxious.



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12 Mar 2015, 7:56 am

Prof_Pretorius wrote:
No, our depression comes from people posting idiotic counting threads on this website .....


What is an idiotic counting thread??



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12 Mar 2015, 8:00 am

If you look in the "Random" section, you'll find threads where people merely count, say, by 5's.

I don't happen to see anything wrong with those threads; it appeals to the Aspergian need for order.



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12 Mar 2015, 8:03 am

Hi Sherry,

I think there was a misunderstanding. I hope you don't avoid "TheCoolStoryBro" because of a misunderstanding.



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12 Mar 2015, 8:34 am

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Hi Sherry,

I think there was a misunderstanding. I hope you don't avoid "TheCoolStoryBro" because of a misunderstanding.


Hi there. Well, this has just to serve me to not give advice to not have these kind of things happen. About writing things I did not write, I was sure I did not even write that, because I never refer myself to someone else as "dude". It is just not my way of directing myself to someone. I was very puzzled when he accused me of deleting something, then, writing that, and adds all that...Anyway, I understand that someone can get annoyed whe having unwanted advice (my mistake), but there is no need to react that badly. And, it is not my fault if someone does not think before acting. Even if it was bad to give unwanted advice, I did not do it with a bad intention. Besides, I dislike to be accused of things I did not do. If I would have gotten an apology, for all of this, it would have been better....But, I just saw it as someone else who reacts in a negative manner.

The reason of wanting to avoid the user is, because I do not want a further conflict to happen, nor to get in a virtual fight. I know that, when there is, hostility, things can escalate every quickly. Thank you for your concern about this.



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12 Mar 2015, 8:36 am

I have found your advice to be good advice. Please don't be afraid to offer it.

Sometimes, people take things the wrong way. It doesn't mean YOU did anything wrong. It might be a problem with the other person.