Disdain for alcohol and drugs = sign of Austism

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I never enjoyed clubbing... I just don't get it... Horrible environment to willing put yourself in.

It seems that several people on this site eschew these substances and don't understand why people use them, and many of the autistic people who do use them (not just on WP but in the Asperger's autobiographies I've read) do it to self-medicate their symptoms rather than for the typical social reasons.

I'll join the "thinks these things are stupid" camp. Far as I'm concerned, alcohol is essentially a stupidity potion... take some, and you get dumber and slower for awhile. Take more, and the effect gets worse. And therein lies my problem with it, because that's ALL it does. It's not like it gives you super speed or something as a side effect. It just makes everything you do worse and less effective, can stop you from doing LOTS of things whatsoever (because you're too bombed to do them), and can make you dangerous to others.

....and the less said about drugs, the better. I get bothered even just by the medications I'm on. And those have no side-effects on me... I just dont like taking pills, the things make me paranoid. So I cant understand (and dont want to) how anyone could take something with the INTENTION of going through the bizarro crap that drugs can cause. Particularly all of the ones that are known to be super-harmful. Thanks, but.... no.


If others want to do these things, then.... whatever. I cant stop you. But I absolutely WILL stay away from people that are doing it (if someone I know is drinking near me, for instance, I just leave. If they dont like this... well, tough) and to heck with what anyone else thinks, really.

And it's not just autistics that dont like these things. Plenty of NTs dont like them either.

I don't think one's views on intoxicants has anything to do with autism. I've known autistic people who disdain them and autistic people who enjoy them.

I like smoking marijuana. It is mentally liberating. Alcohol not so much.

I somewhat agree about alcohol, but admittedly I still like to have a beer or a drink...or shots, but I don't really like getting very 'drunk' anymore, I sure have done a couple dumb things while drunk. I personally prefer marijuana and psychedelics....like mushrooms, LSD, DMT and peyote would be interesting to try, there are also psychedelic 'research chemicals' which are said to be more dangerous and some just have weird/unpleasant effects from what I've heard.

The others I mentioned cause more mental changes than anything else...and have rather low actual 'toxcicity' of course some people cannot handle such an extreme head change, and well bad trips can suck. But I have had pleanty of very enjoyable experiences with psychdelics....and I never got curious about them out of trying to be cool or give in to peer pressure it was actually because I really got into Pink Floyd and that is where my interest in psychedelics started. I got into their music around age 15, never tripped till I was 20 but since I was 15 I had wanted to try it so for me it was I finally had a chance to do something I had wanted to for years so I tried it and liked it. And you may think it sounds silly or laughable, but psychdelics specifically are meant to 'expand' the mind, that is essentially what psychedelic means....many drugs more dull the mind than expand it like opiates and alcohol, but different drugs have very different effects. But to each their own I could care less whether or not someone uses drugs in general I would care if a friend or family member was really abusing a drug and like killing them self that way. Also I respect that some people have no desire/interest and do not try to pressure people.

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I feel the same way about all that stuff. It makes no sense to me why anybody would want to distort their mind. It seems like it could only cause a plethora of problems, with no benefit. Also, as you said, being around people who are messed up is not fun in the least.

In my case my mind was distorted before I even knew really what drugs even were...though I have found some make my mind feel less distorted like cannabis, it helps minimize distortion for me. For instance I can get bothered by something and left to my own devices I get to feeling like/thinking 'Oh no its the end of the world' or I can smoke some weed and be like 'oh that is a problem, what can I do to solve it or deal with it.' of course it does not effect everyone that way....some people find cannabis makes them anxious, I find anti-depressants make me anxious. I can be simultaneously completely sober of all substances and messed up.....for me cannabis mellows that. But yeah if around people who don't like weed/the smell then I can go off and discretely smoke and come back and that way not bother anyone.

As for psychdelics....I can see how it would not be fun for someone who does not like mind altering substances, and is sober to hang out with a group of people tripping. But interestingly enough its also not fun for people tripping to hang out with such a person while tripping or worse being the only one tripping with non-trippers. That is why being in a safe/proper setting and with the right people is always empathized by a lot of people who use psychedelics.

I used to be very conservative when it came to substances. I am less so now and will drink beer from time to time. I do so in small quantities and only like certain varieties. I smoke cigarettes casually when in high school but only when given to me as I was too cheap to spend money. I did buy cheap cigars/little cigars from time to time. I do not smoke anything now. I have ingested Marijuana in a food product and found the effects calming. The content was not large enough to make me "high". I would probably use it for anxiety if it were available in pill form. The legality of it in IL is a bit weird and slow.

There is a pharmacutical THC pill actually, however edibles work better from what I understand.....because its not the THC specifically that would have a calming effect that is more the CBD which is not in that pill, whearas in edibles or smoking/vaping buds there is THC, CBD and a number of other chemicals/plant alkoids ect. From what I have heard many describe that pill as 'too strong' and 'unpleasant'.....they have developed strains of cannabis with very little THC and much more CBD % mostly to help people with epilepsy but I imagine it would also be useful for anxiety. But yeah it can be cooked with, taken in tincture form, vaporized and various ways besides 'smoking' which is good since some children have epilepsy and benefit from medical marijuana treatment but it would be pretty unethical to have them smoke it.

I don't use any mind altering substances. The only drugs I take are prescription drugs, when absolutely necessary.

I really have a difficult time with the entire concept, of trying to alter your mind. It seems to me that what ever positive benefit people might get out of drugs is always out-weighed by the negative effects. I just don't get the appeal of it.

I don't have any moral opinion on alcohol. I just never developed a taste for it. As for drugs, since I never mixed with people I never had the opportunity to acquire them even if I had wanted to. But I wouldn't want anything that would make me lose control anyway.

People already think I'm stoned.

Pot seems to have little effect on me. I don't like most forms of booze.
Never was interested in mind altering drugs since I haven't become bored with life yet and or don't wish to take the associated risks.

I don't like to hang out with people doing those forms of activity so there is even less incentive

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Yes, it is just a matter of availability. I do not know that I have any diagnosis that are approved for it in IL. They are very selective with what it can be used for.

I am as weary of prescription drugs as any. The fact is many drugs prescribed for things like ASD, OCD, Depression, etc... are risky to some extent. It is possible that heavy and prolonged use can damage the liver, damage memory, cause permanent sexual dysfunction, permanent tremors/twitches, etc... For many people, Marijuana, in small doses, does have benefits that far outweigh the detriments. Ingesting in a way other than smoking enhances said benefits. No crack, meth, etc... have no lasting benefits.

I have heard (or read) several Aspergians say that smoking cannabis makes them feel more "normal", sociable and more able to speak and converse. I have also read about studies treating autism with cannabis.