Correlation between IQ, educational level and substance use

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14 May 2015, 9:42 pm

Aniihya wrote:
While I am not socially engaged, I am interested in people and would love to study psychology if my government wouldn't put so many barriers up. I would have to go to the other side of the country to go to uni.


For what it's worth

My IQ was 129 aged 12 and educationally speaking by the standards of my country I was predestined to follow an academic stream. I did, hated it and after even the courts told me I was to clever to learn a trade I guess I just lost interest and left school around 15. Many years later I did learn a trade off my own back.
Got into tobacco through peer pressure and alcohol pretty much the same. A legal repeat prescription was my ticket into illegal street substances after Rohypnol was banned in the Netherlands and the substitute offered was utter crap at making me feel as the Rohypnol did. Been using and abusing ever since with the odd dry period inbetween.

As for correlation.

Had the Belgium culture not been what it was I would have learnt a trade. Belgium calls them 'waterfall children'. The ones that have to drop a stream because they just can not hack it at the higher level. Many of them due to societal and family induced pressure to perform according to IQ. And many of them drop out all together.

Had my doctor not prescribed me Rohypnol at the time I never would have scoured the streets of Amsterdam (I lived on the edge of the RLD at the time) to find it on the black market and when supply dried up I might never have gotten into speed which would never gotten me mixed up with the crowd that sniffed coke and of whom half were binge drinkers.

Matter of fact most of that crowds were drop outs. And the one thing we all had in common is that we felt alienated from the society we lived in. That our lives had traumatised us enough to find our luck elsewhere in the world. We probably all had reasonable IQ's otherwise we never would have gotten where we did surviving in a foreign country on the margins of society. Some of the Dutch melted in as they got older but the foreigners, like myself, did not know enough of their own troubles to even start fixing them. Other drunk or drugged themselves into early deaths.

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14 May 2015, 9:51 pm

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14 May 2015, 10:19 pm

The number of genius-level IQs in this thread is strange.

kamiyu910 wrote:
If it helps, my mom, dad, and brother are all on the spectrum too.

Mom:
IQ: 164

Dad:
IQ: 135

Brother:
IQ: 162


How is it that you know the IQ of so many people in your family? I was under the impression that having been formally administered an IQ test was rather rare.



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14 May 2015, 11:39 pm

starkid wrote:
The number of genius-level IQs in this thread is strange.

kamiyu910 wrote:
If it helps, my mom, dad, and brother are all on the spectrum too.

Mom:
IQ: 164

Dad:
IQ: 135

Brother:
IQ: 162


How is it that you know the IQ of so many people in your family? I was under the impression that having been formally administered an IQ test was rather rare.


Back in the 1960's, because of how smart/weird my mom was (taught herself to read at 3) they felt it necessary and wanted to bump her up a few grades. She got tested as an adult as well and the score was still the same.
My brother was another like her, learned to read at 5, later skipped high school and went on to college at age 13, which is when he got tested.
My dad got tested in his twenties, though I don't know the reasoning for him. I was tested I think 3 years ago now, and they couldn't tell me what mine was. They said it was "inconclusive."


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16 May 2015, 12:34 pm

Well, if you look at me, I got three official tests (soon four), because I have had a difficult school history. Teachers often complaining that I didn't pay attention, when in fact I got good grades. Then I had difficulties in high school (grade wise), as I had to deal with people who only confused me instead of giving me the simple education. I also had major social difficulties and also my grades sacked after burning out from a lot of pressure that I could become a doctor or blah blah blah. I am trying to get into uni without college prep after learning a trade and working two years. People say they want to help but instead, I don't get help at all and like always I have to try to deal with it on my own. Currently I have the feeling that my parents would rather have me in a job (really any job) than go to uni. They try to guilt me and then claim to be supportive and they are acting contraproductive.



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16 May 2015, 3:21 pm

IQ score: 128 at age 13 (scale: 100 average, 130 gifted)
Level of education: Bachelor's
Use of alcohol: Less than half of glass once a year
Use of drugs: Never
Use of tobacco: Never



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16 May 2015, 5:04 pm

I don't know my IQ
high-school diploma
drink very rarely which is like afew times a year
never done any illegal drugs but I do take prescription meds
I never smoked but I have sinus & allergy problems


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