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26 Mar 2007, 8:26 am

Once again female shows a wider range. A spectrum from almost boys to 100% pure girl.

While it is true some play girl for male attention, in dress, makeup, behavior, they learn such things from the naturals, who dont do it, they are it.

It is versitile, the last generation has shifted male, while demanding that males shift female, Unisex. Equality through everyone being the same. The parts they could not play they were against. Manly men and girly girls were both oppressed by the post feminist culture of the 1970s. Like most movements it tore down much more than it built.

Their goals were to be as good as men. So they state "We are not as good as men." They complained of a lack of equal opertunity, and ignored the fact that more women get degrees from Universities than men. They claimed to be barred from job oppertunities, and pointed out construction, heavy equiptment, truck driver, and even the military. There never were any barriors, and there are still very few women in these industries.

For some reason they were blind to the fact that overall they controlled 90% of education. Near 100% of Librarys, the information and education systems of the time. In the factories they did not run the machines, they pushed paper in an office. Most office workers were women. They were a privledged class, excluded from military service. The only thing that stood in their way was themselves. For some reason they did not want to be bothered with the responsability of running the places they worked.

They lacked managment ability. They just wanted to come to work, do their time, and leave. The idea of living the job was alien to them. Taking responsability for performance, thinking ahead, dedication. Men had to be brought in to take those jobs, for none of the women even applied. They thought it natural that women should be most of the school teachers, because the students were children, and they did dominated children, and loved the power. They skipped on the teach them part, education nosedived in performance.

Men who lived the job, took personal responsability, put in eighty hours a week, made more money, so women demanded equal pay. Equal work had been offered, they turned it down, but still wanted the pay.

The answer was, The Equal Rights Amendment, ERA. They should be given what those who worked twice as hard got. They had been offered overtime, training, the path to advancement, but that cut into getting their hair done, dating, and we know what that means, or something, they turned it down.

They got their revenge by raising their daughters to be less girly, equating being themselves with failure. Their girls were going to be just like men. Dolls and dresses were played down, girls have always done better than boys in school, but no more Home Economics for them. They were going to improve females by being less female. They had identified the problem.

Great progress has been made. Come the next war all you girls get Draft Notices. We are all equal now.
Hourly workers get hourly wages, and if you want the salery, you will put in the hours that have always gone with the money. All employees are treated equal, so your continued employment is based only on performance.

Couples formed for a range of skills to have a home and family. It is something a man would give his whole life for. There is no point in getting married to another man. Two incomes do not a home make, only a larger tax bill. The IRS loves girls. Producing and raising children is being sent offshore, the service is over priced and performance unstable.

Too many women have come home, packed, said, I got a better job offer, so I am selling the house, I cleaned out the joint bank accounts, and I am leaving you, taking the children, and your paycheck for the next fifteen years. As it was a promotion, she could get a better, house, man, and had "her" children to go with it.

Marriage oppresses women, so we are dropping it. After the high point of Women's Rights, it is their children who are rebelling. Mom married three times, so I have three dads, two sets of half siblings, three half families, and they are all strangers to me. Familiy reunions are fun. No one wants to be ex-husband II, and still paying for it.

Women were raised to judge things by money, they had abortions because it was going to cut into their earning potential. They divorced when it was a sharp and profiable business move. Serial Brides have ended more lives and caused more economic damage than Serial Killers. Dont ride with strangers.

You are now equal. You pay rent because you will not work hard enough to own, nor will you make long term commitments. Job advancement goes to those who work. You have most likely peaked. That is it. You are now a unisex drone, you will trudge on alone till you retire, and will still be alone. While you are young you can trade sex for attention, and will be judged like the other boys who do that.

After thirty-five you will become invisable, except to bill collectors. Since your job skills will not improve with age, there will be less jobs, more competition, and lower pay in your future. Welcome to the world of men. It has always taken teamwork to maintain a home and family, you are not team players.

Girly girls still exist, they take three baths a day, spend all their time on frilly looks, live before a mirror practicing, and do not care about a drivers license, just the legal age to marry. They want to move to Alabama where fourteen is free to marry, and are oppressed by waiting to eighteen in dumb states.

They just want a man and a house, and everything delivered. They are happy to spend every day making a home for their man. He never knows what he will come home to, sometimes a little girl having a tea party, other times a sex starved vixen, or perhaps a trail of rose petals leading to the bedroom, and at the end of the trail, a girl who could not think of a thing to wear.

Sometimes she is upset, her last pair of stocking has a run, she can not get the top off a bottle, and a wise man knows to calm her by promising to write a strong letter to the manufacturer, and order her more, for she looks so cute doing house work in just high heels, stockings, and earrings. She spends her days bathing, shaving everything from the neck down, primping and oiling, and never goes out in the sun and wind. Someday she will drive a car, go out in the world, but not till she has children, and becomes the best mom ever.

First she is going to be a wife for ten years, fifteen if she lived in Alabama, and be cute and lovable. When she does leave the house it is fully dressed to impress, as a wife worth keeping. Her man does not mind buying her clothes. He does not make dinner reservations, he goes and meets the Matrade, slips him a hundred, and when he arrives with wife, is greeted as Mr. and the Lovely Mrs. Smith. Other tables get one waiter part time, he has two full time. She has the best view, where everyone can see her, no one sits near, she is the star attraction.

Most of what she wants in life comes from the Victoria's Secret catalog. She is not expensive to keep.

She does not want a car, or to go out much, she eats little. The house is always clean, and she freshly bathed when her man comes home. At the door she strips him of briefcase, tie, coat, shoes, for she likes to touch him. She learns to cook what he likes, his dinner is better than the best. She pretends to eat with him, and listens when he talks of work. And when he calms down from the day, draws an hot bath for him to relax in, she loves being a bath attendant, doing his nails, pumice stoning his feet, and drying him off. She is very good at shaving, and touching. He is revived for another day, and it is only eight o'clock.

If he has work to do she understands, for if she did not he would stay at the office later, and she lives to have him home. Her turn will come, she does not want him thinking of something else when it is her time. After he goes to sleep she softly slides out of bed and goes to wash the dishes, lay out his clothes for the next day, and makes his morning perfect. She naps in the afternoon, sleep twice a day, so is up early with coffee when he awakes. When he goes forth to meet the day he is happy and worry free.

His dear wife wanted a little house, something he could more than afford, spends money, only on things to make him happy, and by the time they have children, the house will be paid for, and they can get a bigger one for raising children. The lack of stress keeps them both young and healthy, they are happy. If he wants to work longer hours to get ahead, she will say, do what you need to do, I do not understand manly things, just let me know when you are coming home, and I will be waiting for you with dinner and love.

She is not just a housewife, she does not understand why there is not a Mrs. Universe Contest for perfect wives. It is the most important job in life. She does not let it bother her, or anything else, she will be the perfect, wife, the perfect mother, and the perfect woman.

The only threat to her life is some younger woman trying to take her man, but he is happy with what he has, and they do not stand a chance. She gives him shelter from the world, his home, his wife, his children, his family, his life, and he can ask no more.

There will be younger girls he sees, but they will not be as female, and you can never tell where they have been, or who used them last. He will be home after work every day, and when he sees his wife, will say, "You know, I really like you." She knows.



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26 Mar 2007, 9:49 am

I'm a total girly-girl! I love dressing up and looking glamourous, at least a third of my wardrobe is pink (and I have at least 400 outfits by now!), I absolutely love shopping, makeovers are so much fun to me, I hate getting dirty, and so on and so forth. So if you hate girly-girls, please don't say anything against me. I actually used to be a tomboy until I hit middle school. Afterwards, I just wanted to fit in. And now, in twelth grade, I'm one of the most popular kids in school! :wink:



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26 Mar 2007, 11:48 am

Aspie_for_the_Lord wrote:
we are male or female, by what 'parts' we have.... everything else is placed into our head by being raised in our society...

Pretty much.



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26 Mar 2007, 12:33 pm

If you have Asperger's then according to Prof. Simon Baron Cohen (book: the essential difference), you have an extreme male brain, also known as a systemizing brain.
Asperger's is biological just as neurological sex differences are...so if you find that you are in fact a girly-girl with a diagnosis of Asperger's I would advise that you have your diagnosis reconsidered.

I personally find such 'girly-girl' behaviour truly irrational, inefficient and bizarre.



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26 Mar 2007, 2:14 pm

When I was a child I didn't play with dolls until my sister did it, I prefered cars, action figures and other boy's stuff. On kindergarten I had problems because teacher made girls use pink colored things and boys blue things, when my favorite color was blue :x .

Now, I hate dresses and other girly clothes (I have used them, but in extreme cases), almost all my closet is filled with jeans, pants, T-shirts, and I wear tennis shoes almost all time.

Average girls of my age (I'm 20) are worried for their appearance, dating boys, makeover, fashion clothes, top ten music, . . . . And my interests are videogames, anime, J-Music and VG-Music, and a lot of other "nerdy" things. I have never had a romantic relationship, a date, or something like that, I'm not interested, and people thinks I'm "weird".



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26 Mar 2007, 2:57 pm

I'm very girly girl in appearance. I wear makeup (although just mascara and lipstick (sometimes)), girly clothes (even dresses and skirts), heels sometimes (but I have extremely narrow feet so all shoes tend to look girly on me), and jewelry. I think it confuses people, men and women. I look like a girly girl, but then they approach me to talk about girly things and they get the blank look. But, if they want to talk about intellectual things, art, writing, etc., then I'm there.

As far as being girly? Maybe in some ways. But I'm completely undomesticated and have absolutely no nuturing instincts at all. Anyone would be better off looking for that from a rock than from me. I won't talk about babies, men, movie stars or clothes. On the other hand, I don't want to take care of anything, so I let my husband make all the decisions regarding the house, etc. and that gives off the impression that I'm not just a girly girl, but high maintenance. I am high maintenance. I won't take care of anything to do with the house or the outside world. I'll just retreat further into myself and ignore it. I don't know. I think I'm probably a paradox or I have an extremely deceiving appearance.

Today I was told I was naive and childlike. Maybe that's more accurate.



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26 Mar 2007, 3:14 pm

I dont relate to girls who like "girly" things but I dont think it is any more correct to deny their reality(what they like)then to have some deny mine(tomboy).This is the first step in on a path to categorising the "other" as less then yourself.They arent less,they are different.I was a relationship addict for years but I hate romance novels...to me it is womens pornography=something that misinforms based on what you would like to be true rather then what is true.I think it makes people disappointed in reality and can cause them undue suffering,as well as those they expect to live up to these "ideals"...but oh well,it is their life,let them be miserable and deluded.I dont like that there are magazines that seem to further womens low self-esteem to sell them products that are supposed to increase their sense of self worth.Seems like a waste of human potential but .......welcome to the "free market",sure beats the hell out of having to wear a scarf over my face(though as I age,that seems more tempting as an option.)I have always had a horible self-esteem when it comes to my appearance,but I was fortuante to understand that this wasnt ....All of me,I had value in other areas.(Though none of them out weighed the appearance one,I did manage to find people who liked me inspite of my appearance...imagine that.)

I am personally annoyed by most extreme examples of gender.I dont like to see guys who attack others(and are looked up to by females, or females who giggle or act stupid and guys who think this is charming.The whole thing is like finger nails on a chalkboard to my ears.I dont think my reaction is any different then seeing or smelling puss draining from an open wound....I just find it a bit disgusting and a sign of poor health.Mostly I just avoid situations like this(people) for the same reason I prefer not working in a wound clinic.I know it's not really a matter of "fault" but a matter of my particular taste.I am happier walking in the woods collecting rocks to walking in a noisy mall collecting lip gloss and gossip.


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26 Mar 2007, 3:23 pm

I was in a restaurant tonight and two girls were dominating the airwaves wafting their rings in the air. My baby kicked last night, my hubby ... we got a new kitchen, unrelenting inconsequential chit chat it was so depressing. To have a partner would be warming I'm sure but never have I or will I beable to feel connected to gals like this I just find it dull! So yes I indulge in face creams but I can't fit into the feminine clique ever.



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26 Mar 2007, 3:40 pm

Computer games, fast cars, playing outside, dirty jokes, yep, me.

I can't stand make up, it's disgusting. Dresses and skirts are revolting. Give me jeans and shirt anyday (and the fast car! I LOVE cars! I want a Toyota Aurion V6 as soon as I get the money!).

However, I do very much have an interest in love and being loved. I want to be a mum, have a home etc etc.

Hey, a shiny thing!



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26 Mar 2007, 5:11 pm

In defense of the girly girls, I can understand because of desire to be interesting and/or society, etc..., that they want to do that. Also, I can certainly understand their lack of apparant social deficit, especially where lightning88 is concerned.

That in itself is no reason to look for another diagnosis. HEY, lightning88 ALSO said she was good in math. That is supposedly a MALE strength. That doesn't make her any less feminine!

And frankly gals, I like girly girls. They're ok in my book. The only think I hate is the stench of strong perfume.

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26 Mar 2007, 5:17 pm

I used to dress REALLY girly-girlish. Now,I like a slight androgynous style to it. I call myself "tough with a girly mix". But,I HATE pink and skirts(unless the skirt is worn over pants).


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26 Mar 2007, 5:27 pm

Ever since I was a little kid, I felt sorta androgynous...I date guys...but i am more like them than i am other girls...I wear a little bit of makeup, and i wear skirts alot (because they are comfy)
But I have a hard time hanging out and being like other girls.



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26 Mar 2007, 5:42 pm

I definitely feel very feminine but I'm not and never have beena girly-girl. I like having long hair because it looks so feminine. Most girly-girls actually don't have very long hair, come to think of it. I hate the color pink.



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26 Mar 2007, 5:44 pm

Oh, but my brain feels male... like a previous poster said I always dated guys because I could understand them. I don't understand women at all! :lol:



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26 Mar 2007, 5:44 pm

I wish Inventor would keep his ramblings to a minimum. I don't like scrolling through his multi-page, disjointed screeds.



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26 Mar 2007, 5:51 pm

SteveK wrote:
In defense of the girly girls, I can understand because of desire to be interesting and/or society, etc..., that they want to do that. Also, I can certainly understand their lack of apparant social deficit, especially where lightning88 is concerned.

That in itself is no reason to look for another diagnosis. HEY, lightning88 ALSO said she was good in math. That is supposedly a MALE strength. That doesn't make her any less feminine!

And frankly gals, I like girly girls. They're ok in my book. The only think I hate is the stench of strong perfume.

Steve


LOL Do you think we do it because of society? Well, maybe some. I like it so I do it. I don't dress trendy, I dress in what I like.

I had to laugh at the diagnosis. I found it strange that most Aspie women on here wanted kids, nutured them, wanted to be stay at home moms and felt sex was related to feelings. Those are not extreme male traits at all. I'd have to say I'm more extreme male in my thinking there. But, as to telling anyone to get a diagnosis because they do want those things. Nah. I think all this fixation on diagnosis of a broad spectrum is kind of self defeating.