religion and homophobia

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I don't get it either. It's not just religion, although religion can be used to justify it.
It's basically the ape mentality. Chimpanzees will fight with chimps whose territories border on their own, so they can get access to more fruit trees, which increases reproduction rates and infant survival.

Humans think they're somehow better than apes, but they still fight over who has access to more fruit trees, and they are threatened by anyone who is different.

Homophobia probably evolved because within a social structure (family group, clan, tribe, whatever) it's in everyone's best interest to have as many babies as possible to pass on their genes to the next generation. If the neighboring tribe is more interested in gay sex than straight, it's to your best interest because they won't have babies and will eat less fruit, but if members of your own tribe aren't making babies, it's a problem. So, that evolved into social taboos about gay sex, which in turn evolved into religious prohibitions.

It seems like too many people just don't think, so instead of thinking "It's perfectly fine that 2 people I don't even know are having non-reproductive sex, they don't share my genes and I really wouldn't gain anything if they made lots of babies. In fact, since overpopulation is a problem, I'm probably better off if they don't make babies." they just think "Gay sex bad! Sinful! Ugh! Need more fruit trees!"

Mormons?

I hate the mormon religion.

I don't like any organized religion. I'm a closet Christian.[/quote]
nope not just mormons but there are also some people for example that are catholic form romania and they practice no contraception along with the human right to say no to sex being denied!

nope not just mormons but there are also some people for example that are catholic form romania and they practice no contraception along with the human right to say no to sex being denied![/quote]

I'm not a catholic either. My mom once said she would never date one, but her current boyfriend is one, and the conflict really shows.

Yes, I am from Manchester and it makes me sad how people get so trapped into insular, religeous communities to the point where they feel (or are made to feel) that they don't have any hope on the outside. I knew a guy at school who felt so scared of the pressures of his community that he wanted to emmigrate to Japan just so he could discard his communities religeon and be able to live in peace rather than be forced into a marriage.

I really don't get this. Why? I don't hate any particular religion or hate atheism. Mormons aren't prone to super-prone to violence or anything.



There are other arguments, far more intellectual arguments against same-sex marriage then this. One thing that I think hurts ones arguments is pretending that they other side is "simpleton" and doesn't consider the facts at hand. This in it self often leads to an inability to consider the merits (although not necessarily accepting them as valid) opposing points of view.

Believe me, I could go into a venom-spewing diatribe against organized religion but the less I say, the better.