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MolotovCocktail
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03 Apr 2007, 8:01 pm

JakeG wrote:
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I scored 160, and another time I scored 170.

To be honest, I really despise these tests, and there is a lot of suspicion about them from a psychological and scientific view point, since it really only tests your visualization, memory, and general verbal and mathematical skills. They do not take into account a whole bunch of other factors, such as cultural and emotional and age.


My italics.

I have never heard of an IQ test that tests anything like what a mathematician would call mathematical skills. They normally just test petty mental arithmetic which pretty much boils down to speed and short term memory. The correlation between skill at mental arithmetic and mathematics is pretty weak - in fact some of the greatest mathematicians in history were actually well known to be particularly BAD at mental arithmetic.

Even the pattern spotting tests in these things are usually ridiculously awful. They are notorious for using ambiguous questions such as what is the next number in the sequence:

3,5,7,...

where the answer could be several sensible things e.g. 9 (next odd number) or 11 (next prime) but in fact it could just as well be any number you choose it to be.


Yup, I'm well aware of that. I'm not sure if you have heard of a physicist by the name of Richard Feynman, but he was one of the top physicists of his time and he did not score that high in the IQ tests at all. It just goes to show you that the number you score on the IQ test is, well, a number based on personal opinion.



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03 Apr 2007, 8:10 pm

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Yup, I'm well aware of that. I'm not sure if you have heard of a physicist by the name of Richard Feynman, but he was one of the top physicists of his time and he did not score that high in the IQ tests at all. It just goes to show you that the number you score on the IQ test is, well, a number based on personal opinion.


Yeah, he was the example I used in my previous posts!



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03 Apr 2007, 8:14 pm

How many threads on this topic do we really need on the first page?



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03 Apr 2007, 8:15 pm

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Yeah, he was the example I used in my previous posts

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lol! wasn't paying attention to that!



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03 Apr 2007, 8:23 pm

Why do people care so much about IQs? They are so irrelevant.



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03 Apr 2007, 8:29 pm

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Why do people care so much about IQs? They are so irrelevant.


Yes, I think they are just snake oil.



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03 Apr 2007, 9:21 pm

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06 Apr 2007, 12:00 pm

JakeG wrote:
I don't really 'believe' in IQ tests that much.. I think they just give a measure of something very, very specific which doesn't neccesarily relate to what people normally understand as the word intelligence to mean.

I mean Richard Feynman reputedly scored 120 which is just over one standard deviation above average yet many would have considered him to have been one of the most intelligent men of his day.


I agree...i took the online Tickle IQ test out of curiosity and just the opposite of Richard Feynman w/120 IQ high intelligence, i scored 142 and not very intelligent.



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08 Apr 2007, 7:58 pm

135. Thats with a legitimate IQ test given by a psychologist, not a BS online one.


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09 Apr 2007, 11:15 am

4,723.34

But I wasnt really trying.

It was Saturday and cartoons were on. :)


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09 Apr 2007, 1:10 pm

The brain is a finit organ. We cannot pay very good attention to things that comes easily and naturally to others that it doesn't to us.

An I.Q test can give a good accuracy of how well people solve meaningless problems like math problems but doesn't seem to mirror any of the problems that can occur in real life.

Plus, everyone has a unique personality.

If you don't understand mental disorders etc then you will not understand the abilities of people, creativity, or of intelligence.

The brain wires itself differently in everyone and sorts through its signals differently in everyone. Some people may be just about the same if they inherited almost the same brain wiring genes. And if you have an abundance of thought and emotions, it is linked of having difficulty controlling thoughts and difficulty seeing the big picture - I'd say of better that it is compared to someone who is clear headed and pays attention to the outside world.

Thoughts block the senses and a heigthened sensory experience in place of thoughts can change ones awarenes but makes it difficult to feel in touch with themselves and of their emotions etc so they have more of a difficulty making decisions or put many a things off all the time.

I.Q tests can be extremely inaccurate if not absolutely rediculous to test someone to see how intelligent they are.

There is more to what I have here as well...

People who specialize in an area of expertise usually have a hard time in other areas. An example is that someone who engineers computers is not a neurologist and a neurologist is too distracted from studing things like black holes and super string theory.

When it comes to things that require improvement of ourselves, people who want to engineer human brains are also a little off the deep end. Look at biopsychiatry.com and you will notice that the ideas and the research is extremely rigid and extremely inflexible with mothernature.

We have no clue as of how neurons wire up to make us who we are and the complexity of systems that relate to those specialized cells and procceses. Its so hard to define intelligence or what generates it. Is it just neural circuits or what?

There should be other ways to quantify and qualify intelligence and an I.Q test is not something that should be very popular as something to judge others.

As you can see, I am scientific and very much of aware of myself and what I am doing. I am at peak in awareness and I do not give a damn about I.Q...



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09 Apr 2007, 1:38 pm

The IQ test is a diagnostic tool for spotting LDs and even AS by comparing subscores. The Tickle test is just for fun. I did take a test for high IQ which was designed to spot AS. It was made up of really difficult analogies such as:

To make a commotion is to KICK UP : a spasm is to (HICCUP).

Except they were much harder and open book. You could take as long as you wished, using any reference to try and find the answer. A person with an IQ of 100 would probably not answer any of them.

I got discouraged and turned mine in too soon as some of the other asnwers occurred to me later. I socred a 138. My IQ as a chld was in the 140s.

I was labeled "gifted" and that WAS useful as I was put into more challenging classes.


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09 Apr 2007, 7:33 pm

NoCriminalIntent wrote:
4,723.34

But I wasnt really trying.

It was Saturday and cartoons were on. :)

:lol:

BTW
good quote from hunter thompson. this is a guy who had a pet wolverine...whoa!



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09 Apr 2007, 7:40 pm

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What is your iq?


Mine was so high they had to use scientific notation.



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09 Apr 2007, 7:47 pm

TuDoDude wrote:
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What is your iq?


Mine was so high they had to use scientific notation.



Mine was bigger than Graham's number 8)



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09 Apr 2007, 9:18 pm

My IQ is almost perfect. It's 98.