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Are you here to do something important?
How do you define important? 20%  20%  [ 11 ]
Life is meaningless 15%  15%  [ 8 ]
Yes 42%  42%  [ 23 ]
No 13%  13%  [ 7 ]
Not sure 11%  11%  [ 6 ]
Total votes : 55

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10 Nov 2015, 4:18 pm

I used to when I was younger. However, I have this existential thing that I think everything is inherently meaningless because we're all going to die. Strangely though, it doesn't (usually) make me depressed. I try to focus on my interests (currently my PhD) and it will catch my attention, and as long as it do, I am happy and don't think much about the fact that even my PhD is kind of meaningless. When I loose motivation, however, I can sometimes feel a little bit depressed.


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10 Nov 2015, 5:17 pm

...I've wanted to do - " something " ~ :( but I never could :cry: . :cry: :cry:



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10 Nov 2015, 5:29 pm

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Yes and I will certainly succeed, or die in the process. Either way I'm happy


+1 Going to adopt your outlook. I know that's a typical aspie thing for me to do but these positive thoughts are helping.

I wish you success in your ventures, btw.

Haha that's great. Thank you.


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10 Nov 2015, 6:24 pm

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Absolutely!

The OP is as if I should have written it myself. That's exactly how I feel.

I've been thinking about theories concerning renicarnation. Some people have theories that you pick your particular life, with its particular challenges, like handicaps and disabilities for instance, because you as a soul have grown so much through past lives that you deliberately picked those challenges to grow from them.

I.e they believe that when you die, you regain memories from all past lives and evaluate your journey. Then you pick a kind of life for your next incarnation that could provide challenges for further growth. As you incarnate, your memory is wiped so you won't repeat mistakes from previous lives or deal with baggage that could keep you stuck in a rut so to speak.

This theory is a bit controversial in that some people can be offended by it. Especially concerning people with serious disabilities.
But on the other hand, as a personal belief for someone with a disability, it can give a sense of purpose to existence, and a way to deal with it. It doesn't seem so "why me?" anymore.

Because let's face it: we've all thought "why me?".

Also, because this theory claims someone deliberately picked a challenging life, then the more serious the handicap, the more spiritually advanced that person is.

I think it's an interesting way that turns the tide a bit, since many people tend to have little regard for those with disabilities. With this theory, those people are old, experienced souls.

I think all life has important purpose, and it's also important not to trivialize the lives of those who appear to have it easy. You know: good looks, no mental or physical disabilities, great social skills, lots of friends etc...
The people who seem to "have it all" often have some hidden curse that might be what's meant to stimulate growth for them in this life.

In closing, I want to say that I don't necessary believe this theory is true, just that I think it is an interesting take on disabilities and purpose, and gives meaning to an existence that some times can seem meaningless.

My apologies if this philosophical/religious perspective diverts from the purpose of the thread, it's just what came to mind and I felt like sharing it :)


Awesome! I think there was a good reason you shared this with me. My daughter has Freeman Sheldon Syndrome (FSS) and I really like that perspective you described on reincarnation. She does seem to have an old and very wise soul. She handles her challenges with such grace it boggles my mind sometimes. I would definitely describe her as spiritually advanced. She has taught me many a life lesson. I got off on a Buddhism kick for awhile so I've read a bit on reincarnation. Thanks for sharing that theory and let me know what else you come up with:D



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10 Nov 2015, 6:37 pm

PorridgeGuy wrote:
I used to when I was younger. However, I have this existential thing that I think everything is inherently meaningless because we're all going to die. Strangely though, it doesn't (usually) make me depressed. I try to focus on my interests (currently my PhD) and it will catch my attention, and as long as it do, I am happy and don't think much about the fact that even my PhD is kind of meaningless. When I loose motivation, however, I can sometimes feel a little bit depressed.


I had a psychology professor who practiced existential therapy and he said that one part of it (I believe I am remembering this correctly) was accepting the meaninglessness of life. That apparently brought peace to a lot of his clients once they got over the initial revelation. I never delved into that type of therapy but some people respond quite well to it apparently.

I know exactly what you mean about staying in tune with your special interests. If I don't have something to focus on I usually fall into a funk.

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...I've wanted to do - " something " ~ :( but I never could :cry: . :cry: :cry:



Sorry to hear that, ASS-P. I know how frustrating that can be. I hope you find "something" that works for you eventually.



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10 Nov 2015, 6:47 pm

...I've TRIED to get somewhere , but I'm STUCK ! At NOTHING ! Going downhill , really :cry: ...........



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10 Nov 2015, 6:49 pm

When I was younger I said that life has no meaning so it doesn't matter how we act to other people because nobody matters and I got into trouble for it. I'm not like that now though.


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10 Nov 2015, 6:51 pm

I don't think I was placed on this earth for anything "important." I don't think anybody had a special "role" for me when I was "created."

I just do the best I can with what I got.



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10 Nov 2015, 6:52 pm

I used to when I was younger for some strange reason but as I've got older I realise that I'm probably the most insignificant person I know.


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10 Nov 2015, 7:05 pm

babybird wrote:
I used to when I was younger for some strange reason but as I've got older I realise that I'm probably the most insignificant person I know.

I think whether you are important or not varies due to perception and also if you make the best use of your time


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10 Nov 2015, 11:36 pm

kraftiekortie wrote:
I don't think I was placed on this earth for anything "important." I don't think anybody had a special "role" for me when I was "created."

I just do the best I can with what I got.


You always have great posts so you must be doing something right. Thanks, Kortie.



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I used to when I was younger for some strange reason but as I've got older I realise that I'm probably the most insignificant person I know.


I sometimes feel that way myself. Although, these thoughts keep coming for some reason.



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11 Nov 2015, 2:02 am

Boo Radley wrote:
I had a psychology professor who practiced existential therapy and he said that one part of it (I believe I am remembering this correctly) was accepting the meaninglessness of life. That apparently brought peace to a lot of his clients once they got over the initial revelation. I never delved into that type of therapy but some people respond quite well to it apparently.

I know exactly what you mean about staying in tune with your special interests. If I don't have something to focus on I usually fall into a funk.


Thanks! I did not know that but it makes sense.

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When I was younger I said that life has no meaning so it doesn't matter how we act to other people because nobody matters and I got into trouble for it. I'm not like that now though.


I can relate to this in a way. On the other hand I am always trying to be as kind as possible to people. Though, the meaninglessness of everything (as I perceive it) means that it shouldn't matter. Kind of a dilemma. However, I usually resolve such mental dilemmas by thinking that we have several layers of abstraction. On one of the most fundamental levels nothing is meaningful. On a slightly higher level, though, I care about having my morning coffee simply because it tastes good. Somewhere in between I care about other people and therefore I try to be nice to them.


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11 Nov 2015, 10:31 pm

Boo Radley wrote:
I hear you. I am starting to feel a bit the same way (about not having the tools to do what I want). Although, I still have this slight glimmer of hope that maybe I can make something happen. I think I need to reassess my skill set and hope that can feed into the interests my mind keeps generating.

From my perspective, the majority of people don’t actually do something that I would classify as being “important”. I am OK being “normal”, in that respect.



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12 Nov 2015, 12:14 am

life is meaningless


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12 Nov 2015, 2:31 pm

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From my perspective, the majority of people don’t actually do something that I would classify as being “important”. I am OK being “normal”, in that respect.


I think that a) this is quite astute and, b) really, really important and something that everyone should keep in mind (myself included). It focuses on the question of what, exactly is meant by "important".

Is it what my parents taught me is important (raise 2.5 perfect children and ensure my career in the "right" field advances faster than anyone else's)?

Is it what our mainstream culture teaches is important (make more money that others & let them know it)?

Is it what the priest taught me in my childhood (dedicate my life to his belief system rather than any other)?

Is it what my ethics prof taught me (do nothing that might cause harm - ever - to anyone or thing, even if it means doing nothing)?

repeat, ad infinitum...

Please don't misunderstand - I am not in any way belittling the original question. Rather, I am saying it is so very difficult to be successful when or if you aren't sure you know what "important" means to you *and why*. And hopefully, points out how we are taught that so many "important" goals may in fact not actually be all that important to our own happiness.


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12 Nov 2015, 3:17 pm

Success is the progressive realisation of a worthy ideal. Nothing more @everyone.

A successful person could be anyone who is working towards their goals, a worthy ideal no matter what it is.

The man who is working as a waiter and does his job well because he wants to do it is a success.

The woman who is a stay at home mum and a good mother because that's what she wants to be is a success. :D

Some of this was said by a man called Earl Nightingale and I believe him. :idea:


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