NT stereotypes
We live in a world that is about 98% populated with these NT creatures whom we don't understand. This is one of the few places we meet people who can understand us. We need to let our frustrations loose about these people who vastly outnumber us and don't get us, because it's rare that we can speak to a person who understands.
Yes, these strange beings known as NTs, they confound me. They seem to look like me in some aspects, but are so fundamentally different...
Seriously, I have always felt like NTs were a different "species" from me, like I didn't belong amongst them, I knew they would never truly understand me. I will admit that I tend to "stereotype" the NT species, as sheepish, dim-witted creatures.
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A lot of times, I feel like I understand them better than I do other autistic people. That may well be the case, because I've actually worked on it. When you do this for a while, you realize that any kind of generalization is going to be a load of crap.
Kraftie's got it with the "you've met one person" thing.
There are "NTs" I've met who seem more autistic than I do. But they aren't. They're just... like that. It's a normal human variance.
Frankly, these stereotypes infuriate me. I'm particularly irked by the idea that we're "more logical". In my experience that's utter nonsense. It and a lot of this other stuff just wreaks of arrogance, unwarranted self-importance, and narrow-mindedness. It really disgusts me, even though I totally get where it's coming from:
I suppose it's common for Aspies to be black and white thinkers though, unlike me. I always see the grey areas in everything, so this is why I feel irked when I see Aspies here seeing things as either black or white. I feel I have to voice my thoughts.
That's pretty much it. I mean, I'm more social than some "NT" people I've known. I've met others who are indeed intensely interested in something kind of weird. There's this vast and beautiful variety of human behavior... and these stereotypes ignore it.
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A lot of Aspies seem to think that no NT lives with their parents after the age of 18, all have one interest which is parties, alcohol and sex, hate anything to do with education, are married with kids by age 22, and are all emotionally well-adjusted.
Some stereotypes about NTs here even get mixed up, like in some threads I hear Aspies go, ''I'm glad I have Asperger's, if I were NT I would just be working in a dead-end job all my life'', presuming that stereotype is implying that NTs are unable to get good jobs because they are ''stupid'' and hate studying. Then in other threads Aspies go, ''I wish I was NT, because then I will be in a well-paid job..'' I feel the latter is more true, but not necessarily. Some NTs are just more successful than others.
It's common for NTs to have a craze of partying and drinking when they are young, and some make it a routine to party every week-end for years, and others begin to feel that it's not that much of a big deal and would rather do other things with their lives.
And finally, the most annoying stereotype of all, is ''NTs have no interest in anything except socializing'', also meaning, ''NTs who go to college and university are only doing it because their friends are, they have no desire for the classes they are actually taking'', and, ''NTs don't study or work out of interest or enjoyment, they just want good money so they put up with it just for the money.''
That is all false too. Yes there are some people out there who are just in for it only for the money, but that doesn't define NT. I know an NT girl who is obsessed with beauty, and started off by doing a health and beauty course at college, then done some voluntary work at a local hair-dressers, which she stuck with so that in the end she got a job there. But she wants to get into a beauty parlour doing makeovers on people and other stuff like that, so she's still gaining experience by working her way towards getting her desired job. And she is not into beauty just because her friends are. She chose this path herself.
The girl posting this topic is simply making up a stereotype about "what AS think about NTs".
1/ I am sure that she saw nowhere that an AS saying anything like: "no NT lives with their parents after the age of 18, all have one interest which is parties, alcohol and sex, hate anything to do with education, are married with kids by age 22, and are all emotionally well-adjusted."
This is BLATANT LIES
2/ She says "A lot of Aspies seem to think that ..."
She is GENERALIZING THOSE LIES
=> This is precisely how you proceed to create a stereotype.
Subject of her stereotype being: "What Aspies think"
P.S. She is well aware that she lies, that she generalizes and that she is creating a shameful stereotype.
I'm honestly not sure if you're being facetious, LaetiBlabla.
Assuming you aren't, this is not an example of stereotyping. It's an observation of the behavior of some people here. And "a lot of" and "seem" back this up, acknowledging that it is merely an observation and that it is not necessarily representative about how aspies on WP feel.
A lot of it is also an exaggeration, and probably a deliberate one.
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Assuming you aren't, this is not an example of stereotyping. It's an observation of the behavior of some people here. And "a lot of" and "seem" back this up, acknowledging that it is merely an observation and that it is not necessarily representative about how aspies on WP feel.
A lot of it is also an exaggeration, and probably a deliberate one.
Those are lies, not observations.
Yes, these strange beings known as NTs, they confound me. They seem to look like me in some aspects, but are so fundamentally different...
Seriously, I have always felt like NTs were a different "species" from me, like I didn't belong amongst them, I knew they would never truly understand me. I will admit that I tend to "stereotype" the NT species, as sheepish, dim-witted creatures.
![Twisted Evil :twisted:](./images/smilies/icon_twisted.gif)
I like to think of myself as many things, but sheepish and dim-witted? No.
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Your neurodiverse (Aspie) score: 83 of 200
Your neurotypical (non-autistic) score: 153 of 200 You are very likely neurotypical
Darn, I flunked.
Not in those precise words, but often people with AS do imply this. Not all of us, but a lot do. I know so many NTs over 18 who still live at home, maybe because they can't afford to move out, or can't find a job, or even not ready yet. I've seen posts saying stuff like ''I'm 20 and still live at home''. Lots of people still live at home at 20. In the UK the average age of moving out of parents house is actually 25-26. I know lots of 21-year-old NTs who still live at home and have a messy room like a teenager.
But maybe it is different in America. More members here are from America, and maybe society is different there, and maybe more people do move out in their late teens. But here in the UK things are different. Don't forget, we have a crappy government. So society is a little more tolerant of young adults that aren't fully independent.
I'm sorry if I have offended you in any way.
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Not in those precise words, but often people with AS do imply this. Not all of us, but a lot do. I know so many NTs over 18 who still live at home, maybe because they can't afford to move out, or can't find a job, or even not ready yet. I've seen posts saying stuff like ''I'm 20 and still live at home''. Lots of people still live at home at 20. In the UK the average age of moving out of parents house is actually 25-26. I know lots of 21-year-old NTs who still live at home and have a messy room like a teenager.
But maybe it is different in America. More members here are from America, and maybe society is different there, and maybe more people do move out in their late teens. But here in the UK things are different. Don't forget, we have a crappy government. So society is a little more tolerant of young adults that aren't fully independent.
I'm sorry if I have offended you in any way.
Some take advantage of it. I know two people from the south that basically have never had to pay rent or take on the responsibilities of adulthood because their parents allow it. BTW...those two are in their 50's. So, no. Generalizations without some sort of clarifications applied can be misleading or hamper communications.
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