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GodzillaWoman
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07 Feb 2016, 2:23 am

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The experiment was partially about how parents raise a child with autism or Aspergers. Second is symptoms of anxiety and depression often overlap with autism spectrum disorders often and many times it is hard to separate them. The third thing is unethical experiments can still happen in America and Canada today not just in some country with really bad human rights violations. The false diagnosis was like how a placebo is used during a drug trial in one group of people where the other group gets the experimental drug.

Except when subjects are in trials for medication for a serious, chronic illness, the control group is given an OLD, approved drug or treatment, not a placebo, and the test group is given the new treatment. You wouldn't give cancer patients or schizophrenics a placebo--the consequences would be disastrous.

Aside from the ethical considerations, it's also bad experimental design--there are too many variables and questions to have any really useful results. Is the depression/anxiety from the way the child is treated by peers, parents, or teachers or from receiving inappropriate treatment from the misdiagnosis? Is it really possible to even separate anxiety/depression from autism, with or without a diagnosis? They tend to go together.

I would be interested to know if you have any more details about this. So far it's got a "friend-of-a-friend" urban legend sound to it. Science isn't science until it's published and peer reviewed.


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07 Feb 2016, 7:37 am

GodzillaWoman wrote:
Except when subjects are in trials for medication for a serious, chronic illness, the control group is given an OLD, approved drug or treatment, not a placebo, and the test group is given the new treatment. You wouldn't give cancer patients or schizophrenics a placebo--the consequences would be disastrous.

Aside from the ethical considerations, it's also bad experimental design--there are too many variables and questions to have any really useful results. Is the depression/anxiety from the way the child is treated by peers, parents, or teachers or from receiving inappropriate treatment from the misdiagnosis? Is it really possible to even separate anxiety/depression from autism, with or without a diagnosis? They tend to go together.

I would be interested to know if you have any more details about this. So far it's got a "friend-of-a-friend" urban legend sound to it. Science isn't science until it's published and peer reviewed.



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07 Feb 2016, 10:20 am

Simon32 wrote:
A psychologist and a neurologist that I met some time ago told me of a secret experiment they found out about


So this is third-hand BS then?

Aside from the many obvious ethical problems visible in this "study" (as others have already pointed out), the whole study is unnecessary. If the purpose of the study is to reveal whether or not people treat individuals with Aspergers differently due to their diagnosis, whether or not individuals with Aspergers act differently with or without a diagnosis, whether their differential treatment makes them behave more 'Aspergery', etc. Then it would be much simpler, more ethical and more useful to just study the differences between those diagnosed early in life and those diagnosed later in life (those who grew up with the label and those who didn't). As for the overlap of symptoms with anxiety disorders, what difference would that make? There's an overlap, they're not identical. It not uncommon for someone to have both. And if they suffer with anxiety, they get treated for anxiety regardless of whether or not they have a diagnosis of Aspergers.