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22 Apr 2007, 11:44 am

Me neither, so why does the media do it?!

Also, walk-in-the-rain, I meant the Freud case, and that's the one SeriousGirl wanted to know about.


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22 Apr 2007, 12:19 pm

KBABZ wrote:
Me neither, so why does the media do it?!

Also, walk-in-the-rain, I meant the Freud case, and that's the one SeriousGirl wanted to know about.


I've been reading about William Freund on the search results and can't find confirmation he was dx'ed. I think it is important to keep in mind that some people who self diagnose may not have AS, but may have a personality disorder. I'm bringing this up because I think it is important to let Geraldo know that anyone can come here and proclaim to have AS. Does anyone recall if he was dx'ed or self-dx'ed?


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22 Apr 2007, 12:32 pm

SeriousGirl wrote:
KBABZ wrote:
Me neither, so why does the media do it?!

Also, walk-in-the-rain, I meant the Freud case, and that's the one SeriousGirl wanted to know about.


I've been reading about William Freund on the search results and can't find confirmation he was dx'ed. I think it is important to keep in mind that some people who self diagnose may not have AS, but may have a personality disorder. I'm bringing this up because I think it is important to let Geraldo know that anyone can come here and proclaim to have AS. Does anyone recall if he was dx'ed or self-dx'ed?


Here is a new article. I don't think his diagnosis was disputed or that he was self diagnosing. However, others speculated that he did not just have AS going on.

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2005/11/ ... S800.shtml



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22 Apr 2007, 1:18 pm

Geraldo is a freaking moron. He doesn't give a s**t about anyone else's life.


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22 Apr 2007, 2:05 pm

SeriousGirl wrote:
KBABZ wrote:
Me neither, so why does the media do it?!

Also, walk-in-the-rain, I meant the Freud case, and that's the one SeriousGirl wanted to know about.


I've been reading about William Freund on the search results and can't find confirmation he was dx'ed. I think it is important to keep in mind that some people who self diagnose may not have AS, but may have a personality disorder. I'm bringing this up because I think it is important to let Geraldo know that anyone can come here and proclaim to have AS. Does anyone recall if he was dx'ed or self-dx'ed?


Psychiatrists are far from perfect, so even PROFESSIONALLY diagnosed people may not really be AS.

That said, you can't even trust this SYSTEM! It says I have been professionally diagnosed even though I haven't been, and told it I was SELF diagnosed!

In any event, ANYONE can snap. CHO was an idiot psychopath for MANY years! He was almost BORN that way! I mean a death list at EIGHT!?!?!?

BTW I told my mother last friday she could call today. She is NEUROTIC, and calls a LOT! Today I called to take care of it so I could have the day to myself, and one of the last things she said was "DON'T GO ON WRONGPLANET.NET!"! WHY? Because she watched geraldo! I swear, I ALWAYS hated that guy! That she remembered to tell me, and remembered it was .NET is ASTOUNDING!

Oh well, I guess I WILL lay lower. I can only do it on MY equipment, etc...

BTW Serious girls assessment of CHO DID help to set her mind a bit at ease. THANKS!

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22 Apr 2007, 2:48 pm

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And not ONE word about how the military is anathema to autistics!?!?!? They will have to make up their minds!

1. Useless to anyone and harmless but stupid and worthless.
2. Dangerous and psychopathic(but not seen as such by psychologists), and can methodically kill at random!

Hey Geraldo and "autism speaks"..... WHICH IS IT!?!?!?!?


Good point steve!



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22 Apr 2007, 3:30 pm

SteveK wrote:
Psychiatrists are far from perfect, so even PROFESSIONALLY diagnosed people may not really be AS.

That said, you can't even trust this SYSTEM! It says I have been professionally diagnosed even though I haven't been, and told it I was SELF diagnosed!

In any event, ANYONE can snap. CHO was an idiot psychopath for MANY years! He was almost BORN that way! I mean a death list at EIGHT!?!?!?


I think it is more likely to be negatively dx'ed as something else than false postively dx'ed with AS by a professional.

From what I saw of the show, and I was merely pressing the channel down button until I saw the homepage of wrongplanet.net and had to stop, Geraldo was dredging the net for a connection of autism with mass murder. He was discussing Will Freund as if he were not unusual.

Cho made his death list in the 8th grade and that info comes from an interview with one of his former high school classmates.


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22 Apr 2007, 3:59 pm

This is an email I just sent to Geraldo:


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How dare you try to blame Cho's violent actions on autism/Asperger's Syndrome! I am an eighteen year old male American with Asperger's Syndrome, and I feel as though you have vilified me and the members of my community. You clearly do not understand our disorder, and you have made this clear from your use of a screen-shot of the support site, Wrongplanet.net. Please understand that the murder highlighted is a very rare case. We are less likely to kill you than someone without Autism or Asperger's. Please research before you speak!! ! If you need to contact me for more information, my email address is [email protected]. My daytime phone number is (630) ***-****, and my cellular number is 630-***-****. I will keep sending this email until I get a response.
- Caleb Ray


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22 Apr 2007, 4:03 pm

SeriousGirl wrote:
SteveK wrote:
Psychiatrists are far from perfect, so even PROFESSIONALLY diagnosed people may not really be AS.

That said, you can't even trust this SYSTEM! It says I have been professionally diagnosed even though I haven't been, and told it I was SELF diagnosed!

In any event, ANYONE can snap. CHO was an idiot psychopath for MANY years! He was almost BORN that way! I mean a death list at EIGHT!?!?!?


I think it is more likely to be negatively dx'ed as something else than false postively dx'ed with AS by a professional.

From what I saw of the show, and I was merely pressing the channel down button until I saw the homepage of wrongplanet.net and had to stop, Geraldo was dredging the net for a connection of autism with mass murder. He was discussing Will Freund as if he were not unusual.

Cho made his death list in the 8th grade and that info comes from an interview with one of his former high school classmates.


YEAH, I DID say psychopath. I thought I saw 8yrs. STILL, to have a DEATH list. I thought about having a jerk list, were I wouldn't work for, do business with, etc... I never even actually did THAT. Still, that is a far cry from a DEATH list. Then again, one acquaintence isn't enough proof and, again, isn't legal evidence.

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22 Apr 2007, 4:09 pm

Me no like Geraldo, and never have! BAD FOX NEWS FOR HIRING HIM! Buy out contract me say!



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22 Apr 2007, 6:04 pm

Geraldo always came across as an irresponsible opportunist, too bad we don't
have real journalists like Walter Cronkite any more. Read and compare these
two bios and draw your own conclusions.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Geraldo_Rivera
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Walter_Cronkite
I grew up listening and watching "Uncle Walter 'Concrete' ".
His word was solid and "that's the way it was".



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22 Apr 2007, 6:23 pm

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After the shootings at Virginia Tech, it was revealed by the news that the shooter was an Asian male in his mid 20’s. Following this new information, Geraldo proclaimed that he had found the shooter. The falsely accused “shooter” was Wayne Chiang. Geraldo had found his picture on the popular website www.facebook.com and immediately broke the news on his program “Geraldo At Large”. While on air, he showed pictures of Wayne Chiang with his rifles. Geraldo had made the faulty assumption that because he was Asian and owned guns, that he was the shooter. This association with the real shooter Cho Seung-hui and the falsely accused Wayne Chiang resulted in many death threats for Wayne. As a result of Geraldo’s questionable journalism, Wayne was featured twice in a CTV news program where his pictures were mixed in with the Cho Seung-hui.


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22 Apr 2007, 6:23 pm

Walter Conkrite was utterly irresponsible. People who decry the "Fox News" I think do not understand that news anchor with so much power are not suppose to make declarations of the state of how major wars are proceeding (as he inaccurately did after Tet Offensive in Vietnam). Alot of conservatives have decried Edward R. Murrow for his rather blantant use of editing to go after those he personally did not like, but Murrow was a saint (and honestly, he was a good man) compared to Cronkite.

I'm glad we no longer have only three hugely powerful network news anchors. It is better we have moved away from such a centralization of information.



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22 Apr 2007, 8:28 pm

In German, Cronkite (Krankheit) means "sickness." He is aptly named. As for Geraldo Rivera, he is a plain idiot.



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22 Apr 2007, 10:13 pm

I wrote a death list in high school; it felt good to put the emotion to words, and allowed me to place said emotion into perspective, i.e., dropping said people is not a justified action for what they did to me -- rather than said emotion festering 'round and 'round in the mind.

If you cannot express words verbally, it's good to put them to paper.

Queue "thought crimes". :roll:



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22 Apr 2007, 10:27 pm

^ I had a "list of people who seriously need to die" in middle school (written so small that no one could read it anyway). While I had no intention of being the cause of their death, I wouldn't have been opposed to a meteor hitting their house as they slept or a similar event taking place. :P