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06 Apr 2016, 4:31 pm

Kanner and Asperger both published their discoveries within a year of each other: 1943-1944.



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06 Apr 2016, 5:09 pm

It must have been very controversial, since it wasn´t acknowledged broader until far too many years later.


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06 Apr 2016, 5:45 pm

Asperger's findings were not controversial at all.

In fact, it's quite possible that they weren't controversial ENOUGH.

Kanner's were more controversial, possibly, because the disorder he described seemed more "severe."

Or maybe because Kanner was better at making himself known to other psychologists than Asperger?



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06 Apr 2016, 5:59 pm

Nope, he only published it then he Studied it early.

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During World War II, he was a medical officer, serving in the Axis occupation of Croatia; his younger brother died at Stalingrad. Near the end of the war, Asperger opened a school for children with Sister Viktorine Zak. The school was bombed and destroyed, Sister Viktorine was killed, and much of Asperger’s early work was lost.
Georg Frankl was Asperger’s chief diagnostician until he moved from Austria to America and was hired by Leo Kanner in 1937.
Asperger published a definition of autistic psychopathy in 1944 that was nearly identical with the definition published earlier by an earlier Russian neurologist named Grunya Sukharev (Груня Ефимовна Сухарева) in 1926. Asperger identified in four boys a pattern of behavior and abilities that included “a lack of empathy, little ability to form friendships, one-sided conversations, intense absorption in a special interest, and clumsy movements”. Asperger called children with AP “little professors” because of their ability to talk about their favorite subject in great detail. Asperger noticed that many of the children he identified as being autistic used their special talents in adulthood and had successful careers. One of them became a professor of astronomy and solved an error in Newton’s work he had originally noticed as a student. Another one of Asperger’s patients was the Austrian writer and Nobel Prize in Literature laureate, Elfriede Jelinek.
In 1944, after the publication of his landmark paper describing autistic symptoms, Hans Asperger found a permanent tenured post at the University of Vienna. Shortly after the war ended, he became director of a children’s clinic in the city. It was there that he was appointed chair of pediatrics at the University of Vienna, a post he held for twenty years. He later held a post at Innsbruck. Beginning in 1964, he headed the SOS-Kinderdorf in Hinterbrühl. He became professor emeritus in 1977, and died three years later. AS was named after Hans Asperger and officially recognized in the fourth edition of the Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders (DSM) in 1994; it was removed from DSM-5 in 2013.
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Further information: History of Asperger syndrome
Asperger died before his identification of this pattern of behaviour became widely recognised. This was in part due to his work being exclusively in German and as such it was little-translated; medical academics, then as now, also disregarded Asperger’s work based on its merits or lack thereof. English researcher Lorna Wing proposed the condition Asperger’s syndrome in a 1981 paper, Asperger’s syndrome: a clinical account, that challenged the previously accepted model of autism presented by Leo Kanner in 1943. It was not until 1991 that an authoritative translation of Asperger’s work was made by Uta Frith; before this AS had still been “virtually unknown”. Frith said that fundamental questions regarding the diagnosis had not been answered, and the necessary scientific data to address this did not exist. Unlike Kanner, who overshadowed Asperger, the latter’s findings were ignored and disregarded in the English-speaking world in his lifetime.
In the early 1990s Asperger’s work gained some notice due to Wing’s research on the subject and Frith’s recent translation, leading to the inclusion of the eponymous condition in the International Statistical Classification of Diseases and Related Health Problems 10th revision (ICD-10) in 1993, and the Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders 4th revision (DSM-IV) in 1994, some half a century after Asperger’s original research.
Despite this brief resurgence of interest in his work in the 1990s, AS remains a controversial and contentious diagnosis due to its unclear relationship to the autism spectrum. The World Health Organization’s ICD-10 Version 2015 describes AS as “a disorder of uncertain nosological validity”, and there was a majority consensus to phase the diagnosis out of the American Psychiatric Association’s diagnosis manual.
In his 1944 paper, as Uta Frith translated from the German in 1991, Asperger wrote,
We are convinced, then, that autistic people have their place in the organism of the social community. They fulfill their role well, perhaps better than anyone else could, and we are talking of people who as children had the greatest difficulties and caused untold worries to their care-givers.
Psychologist Eric Schopler wrote in 1998:
Asperger’s own publications did not inspire research, replication, or scientific interest prior to 1980. Instead, he laid the fertile groundwork for the diagnostic confusion that has grown since 1980.
Since 2009, Asperger’s birthday, February 18, has been declared International Asperger’s Day by various governments.[20]
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06 Apr 2016, 6:37 pm

"You don't have AS....you're just lazy.'



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07 Apr 2016, 12:49 pm

Kraftiekortie: "Kanner's were more controversial, possibly, because the disorder he described seemed more "severe."
Or maybe because Kanner was better at making himself known to other psychologists than Asperger?"

Yeah, probably both....apart from...Kanner Autism is more "visible" than Aspergers, so it has got more immediate scientific and medical recognition faster.


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07 Apr 2016, 7:00 pm

ArielsSong wrote:
LyraLuthTinu wrote:
Yeah...

Just because we've learned a few coping skills doesn't mean we're cured or never had it.

Just because sometimes we have good days, doesn't mean we made it all up and are faking a mental disorder on our bad days.

When I can't, it's not because I choose not to or don't feel like it. It's because there are times when I literally can't.

That refers to acting normal, talking to people, deciding what to do when there are too many options...all those executive functions. Sometimes my brain is willing. Sometimes it just isn't possible for me to do what NT's do naturally, and expect everyone to be able to do. Because they do it so effortlessly, they don't even think of it as an ability. They think it just is.

But for Spectrum people--sometimes--it isn't.


Brilliantly written.

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08 Apr 2016, 4:45 am

"You think she's autistic?!"...that was the response as I was diagnosed. I was almost just as shocked.


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08 Apr 2016, 6:15 am

1993f250 wrote:
... It just pisses me off when people say you can't know or can't have it despite all the evidence to support it, feels like banging your head against a wall taking about it.
It's one thing to say, "Autism: I have it, I believe it, that settles it". It's quite another to say, "According to the appropriately-trained and licensed mental health professionals who performed their examinations of me, I have an autism spectrum disorder, and whether you believe it or not is irrelevant".

The former pisses me off, while the latter only makes sense