What's up with all the hate on" neurotypicals"

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I've been busy with my kids and trying to keep my mind occupied on other things.

The reactions are to be expected with the average levels of Neuro-Typical Ignorance (resulting in condescending attitudes from NTs against ASDs) and Neuro-Typical Dishonesties of course. Entire articles have been written on Neuro-Typical Syndrome ! For the record, that Hyper-Link in the previous sentence is a Satirical-Parody, mirroring how NTs describe ASDs, but in a reverse-role of how ASDs can just as easily describe NTs.

"It's not surprising our wide eurodiverse membership gets a bit down on NTs when NT members come here to post hateful stuff - though fortunately that's not too common"

All the things I say on this site is the real me. I would be saying all of the same things whether I'm speaking to an NT or an Aspie and that's because I have never seen any of you as different. I spend more time here with all of you than I do with my IRL friends and even my Ma.

One thing, if you B19 were the representative for all people with Asperger's, I would want nothing to do with them. Thankfully, you are not. With the things you have said in some of these threads, I don't understand how you ever became a moderator.

NurseAngela, this wasn't about you at all. Actually I was thinking more about the Adelphi Forums women coming here telling us that we are all psychopaths. It wasn't about you personally at all, and didn't refer to you in any way. I seem to remember I encouraged you to stay here at an earlier stage, when you were having doubts about your own place (or not) on the spectrum.

This would actually make you more of an exception amongst the average NTs than the often-encountered standard.

Have you considered the effects that "peer pressure" amongst the NT crowds may have on you?
Group-Thinkers of NTs often do not get the opportunity to remain in the same "clique" for non-conformity.

I cannot deny that you spend much time on these forums but that is not necessarily the same thing as hanging out with forum-members. Even with as much as I have posted and interacted here, I do not consider this so much of a hang-out, than I regard these forums as a medium of communication amongst a spectrum-oriented community. I never really thought of my interactions/posts/responses here as hanging out with forum-members (although I do seem to have gained a fair amount of respect amongst many of our forum-members even if I might be considered to be someone with absurd ideas from a variety of other forum-regulars ;o).

I do not see Moderator-Status from B19 nor do I remember B19 as having been a Moderator.

How can we be so sure that this sentence is not a reaction common of Neuro-Typical Syndrome ? For the record, I personally do not mind your presence on these forums, but I do not give special-treatment to anybody when it comes to really dissecting claims that I may come across, regardless of whether you are on the spectrum or a neuro-typical. When I post things, I frequently get members who insist that I show them the "evidence" for my claims, and so you need not feel "singled out" when you are asked for evidence of B19 having been a Moderator or other such things from which you have been quoted thus far.

Because clearly you would never stoop so low as to be condescending and judgmental towards a large group just based on labels. [/sarcasm]

Seriously, there is no excuse to hate 99% of everyone who has ever lived.

I don't think the animosities towards neurotypicals are justified either.

It is about me. Most here know that I'm not Aspie. I don't even know why this always comes up. I have read threads how some Aspies say they wouldn't want to spend time with other Aspies who are not as high functioning as them. It all depends on how each individual chooses to treat the people they are around. It's not about neurology.

I think some NT's are being hated for the wrong reason. Honestly, most NT's do not know about Aspergers. I didn't. An NT person isn't going to know why an Aspie is acting a certain way unless they have studied it or have a close friend or family member who is an Aspie. Who you should be mad at are those NT's that know you are Aspie and still don't want to try to understand Aspergers (or you) - those are the true NT's that don't care about Aspies.

I have 2 IRL friends and I text them. I post here more than I text them.

What do you mean by "peer pressure"? I'm not in high school anymore. I like to only hang around people who aren't fake - that's why I have few friends.

B19 can tell you that she's a moderator.

Certainly, I do not advocate hate, not even against Hitler (now that I know a lot more about him than what we are fed by history classes). I do not forget hypocrisies very easily though for which is often seen amongst the NT crowds. Willful-Ignorance, how-ever, will always be frowned upon by those of us who have done our homework (and can result in high levels of frustrations). Such "robotic" mental-thinking (i.e. : non-thinking) from large groups may not necessarily be a nice thing to say but is neither necessarily the same thing as hate... real hate involves trying to silence, suppress, destroy, eliminate, leading to things like genocide. With that having been said... I am just going to quote someone before I continue...

“Never underestimate the power of stupid people in large groups.” -George Carlin

Over the years and time that I have been within this realm of existence, and my frequent research into areas of psychology in order to try and figure out why some people seem to be blind or oblivious to things which I consider to be extremely obvious, and combining it with my background in having studied the various subjects of para-psychology, not intending to upset the "materialists" population, but most beings within this universe are simply "spiritual children" who have not fully grown into "mature" adult-spirits. I forgot what technological-vocabulary I came up with to replace the word spirit but it is ultimately a basic reference in regards to one's psychological-growth.

The more psychologically mature, the less likely one will view another as an opponent to be defeated, but rather more like an ally to be freed from cult-control in order to join in the cause of freedom and prosperity for all. The less psychologically mature, the more likely they will view others as opponents to be defeated, even to the point of causing harm and death upon the individuals/groups whom they see as the other side (the type of black-and-white thinking that believes in good versus evil, the Us versus Them mentality, without any ability or capacity to see the hypocrisy within themselves). I appreciate your response and quoting my post so that we could get into this type of discussion, and if I came across hypocritically, that tells me that you have the intellectual-capacity to be able to identify hypocrisy. For the record, I do not actually believe the descriptions of the Neuro-Typical Syndrome article, but I did make reference to it so that one could compare it with articles by the "main-stream" regarding how Asperger's Syndrome was described (and yes the medical-definitions given back in early 2000s really were that condescending in its description of ASD).

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A lot of good explanations. I interacted with a lot of NT's because most of my life I was forced to in order to get anywhere. I had no idea that NT's existed never mind that I am not one. Just thought correctly I was a abnormal human. Interacting with people 98 percent of them NT's taught me that there is no thing as typical and there are good people and bad people and most people are in between somewhere.

Prejudice sucks no matter what the explination.

I don't hate NTs. I've been picked on by non-NTs before (not autistics).

What I hate is jerks. That could be anybody, not just NTs.

While I found the NT criteria quite funny, I wonder how many NTs out there would actually fit it.

But 99% of the population aren't NTs. 99% of the population are ALLISTIC.

Why won't Aspies get that?!?!?!?!?!?!

Well said, B19. This summons up my view as well. I'm one of those who aren't jealous of them at all, I have never wanted to be like anyone else and have never mimicked anyone or even considered it. I just wanna be myself or tone down who I am when needed. I can't be bothered to do more and that should be more than enough. I don't have nor do I want a mask. I make no apology for being me, NTs' approval isn't needed.

I found them hilarious: a great satire of what happens when people start pathologizing and assuming everything. There've been studies showing that in the wrong context, like a mental hospital, many mental health professionals might start searching for ways that normal behaviors might fit a disorder.

Thankfully and purposefully, none of my friends fit these criteria. In all seriousness though, some of the behaviors in here, like mob mentality, should be classified as mental disorders. Why aren't they? We all know or have heard of people who follow the mob, often the wrong crowd, to the detriment of themselves and many others. This is never something we should overlook as "typical."

Also, what about the inability to follow logic, and the need to make emotional appeals to win arguments? If someone does this frequently enough, why isn't that considered a social deficit? They do harm, both to their points of view and the feelings of others. They may not know how to regulate their emotions, or the emotion of the argument, to prevent this either. A lot of otherwise socially skilled people would prefer to avoid conflict than fumble through learning these skills. Why is this avoidance considered healthy? I've always taken these sorts of social risks, maybe that's not healthy either? At least I've learned, and I continue to learn, from my experiences.