PDA (Pathological Demand Avoidance) Autism Questionnaire

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12 Jun 2016, 5:41 pm

I related to many of thr questions.
And then the little control freak in me reminded me I have to submit the results. :D


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13 Jun 2016, 8:18 pm

This quiz was just... way too long. 8O I gave up, sorry.


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13 Jun 2016, 8:56 pm

Any way to find out what I "scored"? Seems like it would have been high.



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13 Jun 2016, 9:26 pm

Beakybird: this is currently not a diagnostic test; just a data gathering exercise. However, if you are interested and can remember what you scored for things, PM me and we might be able to work something out.



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13 Jun 2016, 9:41 pm

I found when doing this survey, 2 years ago I would have had very different responses.

The last couple of years, I have made a lot of progress with being able to "adult" and keep on top of things.
It was interesting to fill out, so thank you.



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13 Jun 2016, 11:55 pm

I am finished it because I was curious, and feel like I identified with a LOT of these questions- it was creepy lol.
I don't know anything about this though. You really should provide more information on this at some point.
I want to know now :wink:
I don't think per say I'm like PDA, but I've been told I'm a "control freak" and like I said I reallllly identified with like all of those questions and do struggle with the work place I do best when I am in charge- others seem to like it to because I don't do well with or respect authority/social position AT ALL. Depending on the person they either like it or get mad and make me want to bow down to them :twisted: never works. 8)
But I wasn't quite like that as a kid- very resistant to things, but I think that was more of an anxiety I had. I don't have the anxiety now, but am VERY authority-resistant/independent now- apparently, so everyone keeps telling me :lol:

It was strange. I haven't read much about PDA; like League_Girl mentioned, there doesn't really seem to be much on this to consult - so I don't know how I feel about it to be frank. :| :?



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13 Jun 2016, 11:59 pm

I have also been called a control freak by my husband and I have been called bossy as a kid and told I wanted my way.

BTW I found another blog on ADA and it was the same thing, girl being snotty to adults and getting in fights with other kids and having aggression and getting kicked out of school or suspended.


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14 Jun 2016, 6:02 am

Hi UnfortunateAspie, LeagueGirl, everyone: there is F all out there on PDA and I suspect a huge number of people may have PDA and not realise.

Just as girls with autism have slipped through the diagnostic net because:
1) they have a tendency to try to seem normal
and,
2) many diagnosticians still haven't been updated that female-pattern autism exists,

Many PDAers are not being diagnosed because:
1) they don't behave as outwardly spectacularly as more violent/aggressive PDAers
and,
2) very, very few diagnosticians have heard of it

Plus there's a 3) for both female autism and PDA: the individuals affected have heard of these conditions either.

I haven't put a huge amount of detail about PDA into the description because I don't want to influence people before they answer the questions. As the majority chunk of the questions were traits scored an average of 70% plus by adults stating that they identify having PDA in the initial Google form, then reading completing the questionnaire suggests what PDA might be. Although some of the traits may be female autistic rather than PDA (more PDA women than men completed the first questionnaire). This is one thing I'm keen to shine light on: what is the connection between female-pattern autism and PDA? Both are thought to have the trait of being sociable compared to other autistic groups.

This questionnaire can – potentially – fill in a lot of gaps in PDA understanding. We're planning to update the Wikipedia listing and request organisations like the PDA Society publish the findings also.



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14 Jun 2016, 7:22 am

friedmacguffins wrote:
It's a demand. :wink:


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14 Jun 2016, 7:23 am

Hello Freestyle,

I have completed your survey. Thanks for posting this, it seems a lot of the traits apply to me. I am not diagnosed but feel that I'm on the Autistic spectrum.

Are there any other places where this is discussed? I'm not on Facebook but could join if necessary.



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14 Jun 2016, 7:23 am

freestyle wrote:
LOL it's phrased carefully as a request, does this come across as a demand to you? There is a definite issue that many PDAers may find completing a questionnaire an impassable demand, but some PDAers at least have participated and their (infact, our) data is IMO useful.


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14 Jun 2016, 7:28 am

Hello neilson_wheels,

I know some people join Facebook purely to become the member of a group. I totally recommend the Adult PDA support group I a member of. It is a lovely, friendly group. I joined it just over a year ago, curious bout PDA and I have found the group very informative and supportive. If you are interested in joining this group, please PM me and I'll give you the link to it.



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14 Jun 2016, 7:34 am

jkrane, trying to steer people with Pathological Demand Avoidance into participating in this is like trying to herd cats!



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14 Jun 2016, 8:25 am

I did the test, but it didn't give me my results. I think it's broken. Looks like the test pathologically avoided giving me the results I demanded :P

Yeah...I have it. I'm a lazy f****r.



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14 Jun 2016, 9:11 am

New results are sill being logged. Within the last hour, there's been about 10 new respondents logged. They are anonymous, but I can look at individual responses. The last seven are:

203= nonPDA autistic male
204 = Unsure male
205 = Unsure male
206 = PDA female
207 = NT female
208 = no neurotype, female
209 = PDA male
210 = PDA female

jkrane: could you have been one of these? Once I finish collecting data, I will publish some charts and stuff. If you would like me to PM you your individuual results (which at this stage, are just what you entered, unanalysed), please PM me which of the first two traits you selected, and if necessary an additional 'uniquifier' and I'll send them to you.



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14 Jun 2016, 6:36 pm

freestyle wrote:
Hi UnfortunateAspie, LeagueGirl, everyone: there is F all out there on PDA and I suspect a huge number of people may have PDA and not realise.

Just as girls with autism have slipped through the diagnostic net because:
1) they have a tendency to try to seem normal
and,
2) many diagnosticians still haven't been updated that female-pattern autism exists,

Many PDAers are not being diagnosed because:
1) they don't behave as outwardly spectacularly as more violent/aggressive PDAers
and,
2) very, very few diagnosticians have heard of it

Plus there's a 3) for both female autism and PDA: the individuals affected have heard of these conditions either.

I haven't put a huge amount of detail about PDA into the description because I don't want to influence people before they answer the questions. As the majority chunk of the questions were traits scored an average of 70% plus by adults stating that they identify having PDA in the initial Google form, then reading completing the questionnaire suggests what PDA might be. Although some of the traits may be female autistic rather than PDA (more PDA women than men completed the first questionnaire). This is one thing I'm keen to shine light on: what is the connection between female-pattern autism and PDA? Both are thought to have the trait of being sociable compared to other autistic groups.

This questionnaire can – potentially – fill in a lot of gaps in PDA understanding. We're planning to update the Wikipedia listing and request organisations like the PDA Society publish the findings also.


Okay! Cool! I feel like how they say that female ASers are "better socially" <- I NEVER fit that profile EVER.
Other things like I liked animals & collected more normal things related to nature as opposed to mechanical things - like rocks, shells, stuffed animals, types of bugs. I actually would play with the little boys in the neighborhood (NT) and found their way of playing with cars/ trucks SUPER boring. I liked putting them on top of one of those toy sets (does anyone remember this??) where they move in a circle or loops and just setting it up over and over and over for hours :mrgreen:

They always tried to get me to play with barbies too. They were ANGRY AS f**k about me not playing with barbies! 8O
They threw out all of my stuff until I sat there "like a good girl" and played with the barbies "just like you are supposed to".
And I would ask for science kits and books, but they would buy me at least two barbies... instead. I found it horrifying lol.

I remember it so well because I would get INFRURIATED.

After about 5 yrs (3-8) I gave in and would (angrily) stack them on top of one another and then slowly line them up in a row (angrily) and then stack them again (angrily).
And then they said "that's not how you play with them."
and I would scream "WHAT DO YOU WANT!! !!"
and they showed me how other girls played with them and said "You need to do this."
and I made the physical motions, and made it pretend it was walking or talking, but didn't say anything- no social story.

So, they took me to the psych ward and asked them what was wrong "why can't she play barbies like the other girls. Even if they don't want to play with barbies you can get most kids to after a while. But she never does"
((why are playing with dolls so important?? Not sure- I still hate them...))
and they suggested "well, maybe don't give her barbies to play with?"
I hated playing house too as a kid:o