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05 May 2007, 11:50 am

I'm 21 years old. When I was 12 the psychiatrist told me Aspergers was the closest he could get for my diagnoses. What about PDD-NOS? He told my mother to use the diagnoses to get me through school and get the education I need. It was also to stop my school from putting in me another school in a classroom full of violent kids with behavior problems.



So what symptom(s) do YOU not have?




I had a speech delay because of my hearing loss so I can understand why the psychiatrist dropped that part from the criteria and for the no delay in cognitive development part and self help skills. I think it’s my anxiety that cripples me from doing things like traveling over seas or in other states, going to places out of town. I am now just starting to do that. In fact I bought a plane ticket to go to Spokane for two days and meet my parents at the airport and look at all the Benny & Joon locations. I want to try finding Mozart and the Whale locations too.
I need to ask my mother if I had a cognitive delay too or not. I know I have cognitive problems but is it a delay?
I don’t know if I lacked the curiosity of my childhood environment growing up. I don’t even know what that means anyway.
And the last part of the criteria, I don’t know if I meet that or not. I know I don’t meet schizophrenia but if I have PDD-NOS then I can’t be AS then so it would stop me from meeting the last part of the criteria right.


The other parts in the criteria from A and B, I seem to fit it but my mother says I fit up to 8 in the criteria but not all the time. Don’t you need to meet two from A, one from B and C D E and F. If you don’t meet all of those, then you don’t have AS then. I don’t meet E. From what my boyfriend has told me. I don’t think I meet F.

That’s why I say I don’t have Aspergers.


I don’t stim all the time, I can be spontaneous, I can be flexible, I had friends my own age till sixth grade but in forth grade I started to lose them because they were in a rush to grow up, they didn’t want to do games anymore and play on the playground equipment. Theirs was sports now like wall ball and I always found that boring but I liked dodgeball. All my friends wanted to do was hang out on the playground and chit-chat and I always found that boring.
In my teens I found I had nothing common in kids my own age because they were into fashion and sports and I was more into playing videogames and I still played with dolls till age fifteen. I also liked doing the computer and watching TV. What my peers did was boring. They had different hobbies and interests than me. Is that still Aspergers?
Now I am meeting people again that meet my own interest but I know after a few visits, they will see how boring I am because I do the same thing over and over. When I’m alone, it’s mostly the computer. I don’t watch much TV anymore and watch my favorite movie much and play videogames. No time. I also like reading. I do that at work during break time or talking to my parents on my phone. I also like going out but I don’t go to places very much that cost money because I am trying to save. Once in a while I will go and do something that costs money. When I’m with people, I’m a different person. Bam more of the AS symptoms come back and when in a relationship and with a guy 24/7, more of it shows because I am inflexible all of a sudden and I stim all the time. Then I’m all normal when I’m by myself.
Now does it sound like I’m not Aspergers?



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05 May 2007, 12:21 pm

AS kids have a curiousity about environment. They just don't necessarily react to people.

PDD-NOS is *******NOT******** a diagnosis! It is a COPOUT! The ONLY reason why all AS and Autism people aren't PDD-NOS, is because they fit AS and/or Autism. It is almost like:

PDD
|----------\------------\
AUTIE ASPIE UNKNOWN(AKA Not Otherwise Specified, AKA NOS)


SO, it is like:

LANGUAGE
|----------\------------------\
DANISH NORWIEGAN UNKNOWN(NOS)

If I gave you a statement that said "Jeg er", it might be NOS because there isn't enough info to determine which language it is.(As I recall, Jeg er is norwiegan as well.)


Who stims all the time?
Who CAN'T be spontaneous?(AS people have a RELUCTANCE to it)
Who NEVER has friends?

Frankly, you made more of a case FOR rather than against AS.

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05 May 2007, 1:14 pm

I think I could be an autie with some aspie traits.



05 May 2007, 1:33 pm

Can someone explain to me what 'curiousity about environment' means?



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05 May 2007, 1:58 pm

likedcalico wrote:
Can someone explain to me what 'curiousity about environment' means?


I interpret "curiosity" to mean a desire to have explanations about how things are the way they are. Ask questions....Explore...Etc....

Dictionary.com says:

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1. the desire to learn or know about anything; inquisitiveness.
2. a curious, rare, or novel thing.
3. a strange, curious, or interesting quality.
4. Archaic. carefulness; fastidiousness.


So my definition matches their first one!

I interpret "Environment" to mean the outside in general, surroundings, etc....

dictionary.com says:
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1. the aggregate of surrounding things, conditions, or influences; surroundings; milieu.
2. Ecology. the air, water, minerals, organisms, and all other external factors surrounding and affecting a given organism at any time.
3. the social and cultural forces that shape the life of a person or a population.
4. Computers. the hardware or software configuration, or the mode of operation, of a computer system: In a time-sharing environment, transactions are processed as they occur.
5. an indoor or outdoor setting that is characterized by the presence of environmental art that is itself designed to be site-specific.


Technically, my definition matches the top 3!

So I would think "curiosity about environment" means to look around, explore, ask questions to determine why things are as they are. Some LFA people don't seem to have that, but is there any ASpie that really doesn't????

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05 May 2007, 2:08 pm

I guess that explains why I have always asked questions. I can remember asking "Why" or "How come" when I be told not to do something and I'd do it just to see what would happen and I'd get in trouble just because the grown ups wouldn't tell me why. I assumed nothing would happen. No andwer, nothing will happen. I can remember aksing where does the sun go whren it gets dark and where do the stars go during the day and how come we never fall off the earth if it's round. I have even asked about our laws like why is killing wrong.



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05 May 2007, 2:19 pm

likedcalico wrote:
I don’t stim all the time, I can be spontaneous, I can be flexible, I had friends my own age till sixth grade but in forth grade I started to lose them because they were in a rush to grow up, they didn’t want to do games anymore and play on the playground equipment. Theirs was sports now like wall ball and I always found that boring but I liked dodgeball. All my friends wanted to do was hang out on the playground and chit-chat and I always found that boring.
In my teens I found I had nothing common in kids my own age because they were into fashion and sports and I was more into playing videogames and I still played with dolls till age fifteen. I also liked doing the computer and watching TV. What my peers did was boring. They had different hobbies and interests than me. Is that still Aspergers?


From everything I know of it and have read of it, yes, that sounds just like Asperger's.

The curiosity about the environment thing-is that supposed to be an AS trait, or an NT trait? Whichever it is, growing up I wanted to know how everything worked-and was VERY frustrated when I started hitting the limits of my father's knowledge, like wanting to know how gravity works, etc.



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07 May 2007, 11:59 pm

I would not worry so much about your actual diagnosis. If you feel comfortable here and can relate to what people talk about, then don't stress. I have NLD, not AS, but I have a lot of the same issues as people here, so I feel like I fit in.



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08 May 2007, 9:25 am

I hardly l like I have it...you know I think I have a light case of it...
I can somewhat talk to people and aren't afraid to go out into the world-I'll do my school work if people leave me alone...and get good marks



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08 May 2007, 9:42 am

Kilroy wrote:
I hardly l like I have it...you know I think I have a light case of it...
I can somewhat talk to people and aren't afraid to go out into the world-I'll do my school work if people leave me alone...and get good marks


Personally through observation I'd have to say you seem to have more of a sever case of social anxiety than AS.

Its been bothering me for ages but I've shut my mouth for the sake of not getting my ass kicked off the board.



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08 May 2007, 9:44 am

yeah...I mean I have aspie traits, and I have been diagnosed with it...
I know I have AS but do what degree I don't know



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08 May 2007, 9:49 am

I can't imagine how strange it would be having AS but being a natural feeler.
Odd thing to comprehend, must be difficult.



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08 May 2007, 9:56 am

what does natural feeler mean :oops:

and yes my life is a hard one-though not terribly depressing



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08 May 2007, 10:02 am

Kilroy wrote:
what does natural feeler mean :oops:

and yes my life is a hard one-though not terribly depressing


A while ago you said you were an INFJ which I can see as you DO deal with things emotionally, like you're always trying to emotionally tackle peoples problems here and cheer them up rather than rationalize. I wasn't saying you're depressed or really, just saying it must be odd having thing kind of foundation and having AS traits.



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08 May 2007, 10:08 am

INFJ? (I just woke up my brain isn't in thinking mode) :lol:
It has been a strange existance-people have been bullying me and I haven't the heart to fight back-I don't want to hurt them deep down...
it's been odd



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08 May 2007, 2:08 pm

likedcalico wrote:
Are there any others here who are diagnosed with Aspergers’ but don't really have it?

I have "it" , but not a DX... I'm debating the value of such a DX with myself. I laugh sometimes when I see all the Medical definitions that ineffectually describe "it". Prefer no label here but my own...

So, "it" is Individual. Didn't we fight a war over that once?

And, your quote: "Am I alone here". Hardly... Certainly not...


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