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05 May 2007, 1:30 pm

It happens to be significantly debilitating in my case, though I not quite seen anyone here who I think might have it quite like me. No I'm not sure I have it. I have a cognitive dysfunction that has been identified just not properly diagnosed yet. Getting referrals at the moment. My doc is trying to find someone who could handle all possibilities. It affects me all the time in everything even things I like. It has caused breakdowns in the past. I wouldn't be stuck in this situation if I didn't have it. That is all I want to say tbh.

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05 May 2007, 3:15 pm

Executive Function is rather rare. We call it management ability. It starts when you can manage yourself, the next step is to keep three other people working and not fighting. The next step is keeping three managers working together, they tend to think they will rise by making others fail.

It is broken into steps,

Low Function, a petty office tyrant who makes a few people show up on time and do some work.

Mid Function, someone who can keep groups working together, by oppressing low management.

High Function, who can see the company as a whole, a living thing that has a job to do.

Very High Function, is seeing the market, shaping the company and it's products so that new products are developed in time for new emerging markets.

Ultra High, a Crystal ball reader that sees the unfolding world economy over the next twenty years, and picks new ways to reach a strong position and do more than survive.

95% of people have Executive Function Disorder, they are workers.

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05 May 2007, 3:23 pm

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I'm sorry but that is a vast oversimplification and frankly quite patronising. You are only vaguely hitting the mark of one of the elements to do with executive dysfunction. 95% of people do not have a clinical disorder; it is pointless to say so.

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05 May 2007, 3:31 pm

I am kind of confused.
Sorry, I have read through all the replies, but I'm still not sure about what this is. Is executive dysfunction the same things as Dysexecutive syndrome?

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05 May 2007, 3:48 pm

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You guys and gals seem AWFULLY sure you have this! How has it affected YOU? I'm just curious because I see a problem I have, and I watch for evidence of it in others! 80% of the time, it seems THEY have the problems too.

Well it is something everyone experiences from time to time but if it happens to a certain degree or at a certain frequency then it's not "the norm". It's often part of autism, AS and ADHD among other things...

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05 May 2007, 4:04 pm

sounds like a disorder a boss would get or a large company

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05 May 2007, 4:27 pm

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sounds like a disorder a boss would get or a large company

Hehe indeed.. in fact my whole company seems to suffer from this... (And I WISH I was joking!)

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05 May 2007, 4:48 pm

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I am kind of confused.
Sorry, I have read through all the replies, but I'm still not sure about what this is. Is executive dysfunction the same things as Dysexecutive syndrome?

YEP!

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05 May 2007, 4:53 pm

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WOW, that DOES make it hard to diagnose. Sometimes, if I try to multiply large numbers, I find myself almost automatically doing two operations at once. Admittedly that DOES tend to happen more if they are simpler. Other times FORGET IT! Sometimes I can interrupt like 6-7 times in a row, and just snap back. Other times, I have trouble even starting after stopping. Those should fit ANY definition of an executive problem, but I disregarded them because they don't always happen. Like the typical AS person, I like to AVOID that!

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05 May 2007, 5:05 pm

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Like the typical AS person, I like to AVOID that!

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But doesn't it frustrate you all the more because of your AS nature? I am HFA and I can say it bugs me a heck of a lot more than it seems to bug most ADD people...

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05 May 2007, 5:48 pm

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SteveK wrote:

Like the typical AS person, I like to AVOID that!

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But doesn't it frustrate you all the more because of your AS nature? I am HFA and I can say it bugs me a heck of a lot more than it seems to bug most ADD people...

YEP! Let me put it this way. When ever people state the stupid thing about "needing change", I feel like yelling, and sometimes DO yell as much as I ever do, that "CHANGE IS BAD!! !! !"! "NOBODY LIKES CHANGE!"! "Not any animal, insect, person. They want IMPROVEMENT!" It DOES bug me.

Still, I can often tolerate it.

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05 May 2007, 5:54 pm

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Yep to paraphrase a some blub from an ADHD centre: Many people get misdiagnosed with anxiety and depression because like fever is to a doctor disorder+inattentiveness is to a psych. Except the difference is it is NOT episodic and it is a neurological condion rather than a mental illness.

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05 May 2007, 5:57 pm

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SteveK wrote:

Like the typical AS person, I like to AVOID that!

Steve

But doesn't it frustrate you all the more because of your AS nature? I am HFA and I can say it bugs me a heck of a lot more than it seems to bug most ADD people...

Yes, though ASD can have ADHD depends how you look at it. I'm very frustrated because I feel like a very curious dumbass. Sometimes I wonder if I’d be better off being overall the same level as my deficiencies. That way at least I wouldn’t know any better.

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05 May 2007, 6:14 pm

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Sure and my now deceased Neuro thought I did have both... but I was talking about people who are solely ADD...

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05 May 2007, 6:36 pm

I don't manage efficiently many things. I used to think this was due to my lack of interest in dealing with the world, but it is perhaps the opposite, and my lack of interest comes from this inefficiency.

Anyway I really believe that, if it was may goal, I could superseed this turning me hyper efficient... well, by now I am not, nor rteally interests me to be like that, by now I prefer to learn to play guitar.

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05 May 2007, 6:59 pm

I found a paper on it:

http://dwp.gov.uk/advisers/joped/vol5/n ... view_2.pdf

Not quite the same as ADHD.

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