Sleeping in the restaurants

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Study halls are a little different than a restaurant.

People say I worry about useless things….

Yeah, and eateries allow entry to someone coughing meningitis around who’s wearing twelve billion dollar kicks and gives twelve million dollar tips for something he needn’t pay for…. As long as he's conscious and it looks like he's only got a smokers’ cough...who's to question him? Too bad that a child or elderly human that's also dining contracts it and dies a week later....

Logic don’t compute.

order a coffee, might keep you awake. then everyones happy.

Yes, you don't sleep in restaurants. Just order something to eat, enjoy it and then leave. They don't want people sleeping there - it looks unsightly and bad for business. Also, people will think you're tired and emotional. I'd be terribly embarrassed if I was caught doing that.

oh, ok, you are right, you should take the health codes to court and get them changed so you can lay your head down and get your sleep.

restaurants have a right to refuse service to anyone, dear. you are on their turf and do it their way. I would toss your bottom out of my restaurant just for being annoying.

Merle

Why is laying my head on table endangers people's health? After all my feet are still on the ground and I am still sitting on a chair.

But in imaginary situation if there IS something seriously wrong with that person, I don't see how asking them to leave would help the person. I see how by asking them to leave they would be no longer responsible, but still it can be argued that they are responsible since the person was tehre on the first place, so they "cheated a rule" by asking them to leave instead of offering medical assistance. I can see why would each individual server want to cheat a rule, but what is a lot more confusing is how come there is a RULE that you should cheat a rule.

And another issue is that the "alternative" to having to leave a restaurant is to stop sleeping. So suppose thats hwat happens. In this case, I am still sick, and I will still die in 3 days because of my sickness. By asking me to stop sleeping they didn't prevent me from dying. On the contrary they made my death more likely since if I did sleep they would of offered me a medical assistance since it is their responsibility to do so; on the other hand, due to the fact that they don't allow sleeping, it makes it a lot harder to find out that I need a medical assistance.



Then they should specifically keep HOMELESS people out, and it is easy to check that I am not homeless.

Besides, I haven't seen a single homeless person taking advantage of study halls despite the fact that over there plenty of people sleep.

They don't want people coming in their restaurant, sitting down and having a doss. Next you'll be asking why you can't just walk into someone else's house if the door is open and fall asleep there.

Roman,
I would like to introduce you to an Asperger's Syndrome trait. It is called perseveration and it means to do the same thing over and over and over and over and over and over and not change it because it feels so good to do it again and again and again and again, ad nauseum.

Lots of Neurotypicals see this preseveration as intentional and don't realize you are not in control of your actions. They either want you in control of your actions and stop, or they will arrange for some force that is bigger than you are to get you stopped. I learned this social grace the hard way. It is my hope for you to learn it the easy way, by example, rather than the hard way, by police lock up or worse (like I did!)

Thank you for your kind attention.

Merle

I can't walk in other people's houses because I can steal something. As far as restaurant I don't see how people who are sleeping are more likely to rob the cashier than people who are awake (I would guess it would be reverse).

Restaurants are food service places, not motels. If someone is asleep in a restaurant, employees worry that he might be on drugs or hurt. Also, it looks unsightly, which would scare off customers, which is bad for business.

My library at my university was very tolerant of people sleeping on couches and at tables. (at tables, which means in a chair with the head down) Many students had packed schedules, starting from an 8:30 class in the morning and ending after a night class. So the only place for them to take a nap is in the library.

They need to apply the same policy equally to everybody, for the sake of fairness.

In order to keep the place from being over-run by loiterers and drunk people, they can't let people take naps there. This is an entirely just, necessary and logical solution or preventitive measure, even though it might cause an inconvenience to a few people.

I work at a gas station from 10pm to 6am. People often go to sleep in their cars and think it's okay. Since I'm a supervisor, I'm the one who has to go knock on the window and tell them to leave. Sometimes they're drunk, sometimes, they're really angry, and sometimes they're just nice as can be. So how am I supposed to know which ones are drunks who might attack me or something?

Getting to my point... you're lucky the cops don't escort you out of the restaurant, because sometimes it's not worth the chance of finding out the hard way that somebody sleeping in a public area is crazy and drunk. (Not saying you are, just saying that management might not want to take a chance and call the police instead; that resturant is private property, you know)

And like eller mentioned, if anybody can sleep in the restaurant, all the homeless people in town will end up there, and they cant let you stay if they kick the homeless people out, that's discrimination or whatever.

If you are consciously setting your books aside, clearing a spot for your head, then taking a nap, then yes, it is a problem. Everyone else already mentioned the assortment of other causes of people sleeping in a restaurant, and the staff can't go on a case by case basis. And it is a bit off-putting.

On the other hand, if you are in there, studying, purchased at the least a cup of coffee, it is the middle of the night, and you happen to doze off in the middle of studying, that would be quite different. If they wake you up and ask you to leave, an explanation should be sufficient, especially if you are face down in a graduate level physics text book.

If it is clear you are trying to sleep, people will get upset. Same treatment for anyone else that attempts to sleep in a restaurant. It is a place of business, specifically the business of selling food and drink. They don't have to be accommodating to anything past that.

But if I have been in the same restaurant many times, they should have a sense of what kind of person I am.



If it is discrimination to treat homeless people differently from others, then it should also be discrimination to treat people who are sleeping differently from people who are awake. I mean, the jist of what discrimination is all about is judging others by what is none of your business. So since you are forced to "discriminate" anyway in order to keep homeless people out, you might as well get to the point and discriminate agaist THEM.

In other words, they are still using their judgement to see whether you are trying to sleep or whether you are sleeping by accident. So they aren't totally formal, are they? So why can't they also use their judgement to see that I am not homeless.