Can one be hyperlexic without being autistic?

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08 May 2007, 8:43 pm

The point is that I do want proof that hyperlexics are not necessarily autistic. Why, exactly, do I need this? It's a long and personal story that I don't feel comfortable sharing with more than a very few people. I'm sorry if anyone is offended, but you don't know how I have been offended in the past and the present. I just need something to prove that my theory is correct.

Please. It's important to me. Again, I'm sorry if I have come across as offensive.



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08 May 2007, 9:12 pm

You are DXed but bound and determined to not be. How AS-like!

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I don't like my world being changed


A typical AS trait.

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I'm an anal-retentive persona


You like perfection in details? Everything has to be just so? Compulsion for orderliness and structure are hall marks of AS. While you might not find them in the DSM IV, they
are adaptive behaviors aimed at simplifing confusing social conventions. So sayeth my Psychologist.

Who said you have exagerated gestures? Poor motor control can make gestures seem overly fluid and exagerated. Who said you do?

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I sometimes make poor eye contact when surprised


I make eye contact all the time. Some aspies do. Some of stare. I do. In any case, the instinct to look when frightened isnt handled by the neocortex and the cortex, which is what AS affects.

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like to have leadership positions

I'm not surprised. The top dog leads the pack and makes whatever rules it wants. I personally dont want to be a leader or a follower, but I'll take leader any day. I wasnt the boss at a previous job, but I was the absolute authority. I was a bouncer. Even my boss didnt tell me what to do, and he did not fear me in any sort of way.


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and I like fantasy.


Yes you do. An expert diagnoses you, then you list a bunch of reasons why you are not AS, and they happen to be common elements to Aspergerians. You love fantasy. You seem to be pretending you are not AS.

When she gets back, ask Zannemarie about fantasy. She writes it. And I suspect you are about to hear from a lot of other writers and readers.

Anyway, its just a damn label. You are who you are. Accept yourself and forget the title.



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08 May 2007, 9:48 pm

Prudence wrote:
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Prudence wrote:
Sources beyond a definition of the word. Is there anything published about hyperlexia not necessarily being "comorbid" with Asperger's? If so, where? I cannot seem to locate anything worth reading on the subject, or anything that could be used as proof of my theory.


The fact that you absolutely need concrete evidence in an orderly textbook fashion points to the idea that yes, you do indeed have AS. Quite the textbook case in all honesty.


I hate the sound of that. I can't be diagnosed based on one simple personality trait.


Idea's are not concrete, its with further evaluation and analysis that makes the idea reality or so forth there's no need to be defensive. What is so wrong with having AS anyway? Because you have AS does not make you incapable of be social nor does it make you incapable of being in a leadership role. There are a lot of extroverted types who also have AS, they make extraordinary business men who are constantly in the social realm.

You sound afraid of your diagnosis, its nothing but a label. Whatever super scaring secret you have bound deep inside you don't make the mistake thinking your the only one. Trying to find a crack in the system to slip out in a logical format makes you look more AS and the more you are fighting it here the more you are proving this diagnosis is correct.

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Many people in the world have similar personality traits to mine, and yet they are neurotypical. Besides, I don't overcompensate. I think you used the wrong word.


And so are you suggesting that AS are completely different than NT's, that we are separate breeds or a whole new species? This is rather demeaning, many people have similar traits to me and guess what, they're NT as well. You're not that different.

Having AS doesn't make you special
It doesn't make you diseased
It doesn't make you horrible or fantastic
It doesn't make you crippled or immortal
AS makes you who you decide yourself to be

So there is things we do not understand, that we do not grasp naturally.
There are things we are better at than NT's, things we do naturally they cannot.
There are things that Extroverts do better than Introverts
There are things Feelers are better at than Thinkers

As for your "proof" its common f*****g logic.
Someone has a bad day, feeling really down they're showing all the signs of depression. It continued for awhile, do they have depression? NO they're upset, or stressed. Whatever, it happens.

Someone has accute hearing, they can hear a pin drop from a mile away.
OMG THEY'RE AUTISTIC!

No actually, they just have sensitive hearing.



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08 May 2007, 9:50 pm

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I have some traits that could fit with hyperlexia. Although English was my second language, I was reading at fifth grade level in first grade and scored at the twelfth grade level in sixth grade. I also learned Spanish quickly in high school. I was a real grammar geek. Conjugating verbs was fun for me, because it was like doing word game puzzles, which I also enjoy.


Well, English IS a germanic language and you WERE immersed! Interestingly, Germans say "It looks like Spanish to me" where English say "It's greek to me"! THAT is more telling!

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08 May 2007, 9:55 pm

Prudence wrote:
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Prudence wrote:
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Prudence wrote:
Sources beyond a definition of the word. Is there anything published about hyperlexia not necessarily being "comorbid" with Asperger's? If so, where? I cannot seem to locate anything worth reading on the subject, or anything that could be used as proof of my theory.


The fact that you absolutely need concrete evidence in an orderly textbook fashion points to the idea that yes, you do indeed have AS. Quite the textbook case in all honesty.


I hate the sound of that. I can't be diagnosed based on one simple personality trait.


ACTUALLY, SEVERAL! Even those that are counter to AS sound suspiciously extreme, and like overcompensating.


Many people in the world have similar personality traits to mine, and yet they are neurotypical. Besides, I don't overcompensate. I think you used the wrong word.


I didn't use the wrong word. I said is sounds like it is... I MIGHT be wrong, but I could be very right! HEY. don't take it as an insult. It certainly wasn't meant as one. BTW Keep going.... You may end up getting everyone to believe you are AS. For all I know, you stim, etc...

Heck, I found something interesting in the last meeting I was in. I was apparantly the only one in a room of like 20 that was FIDGETING! I even started moving the chair from side to side with my foot. No special reason. I probably went through like an hour without doing it. I never thought about it before, but I guess it is a stim. It would be interesting to see if you found similar things about yourself.

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08 May 2007, 11:58 pm

i thalkt before i was 6 months and my first word was i (i'm from norway) i know this becoose the nekst word was dag in english that is to day i thalkt for the first time at a doctor and i sad i(to) dag(day) kjører(drives) mamma,(mommy,) sånn kjører(drives) hun(she) oroday drives mommy she drives like this.
after i thalked like that i made driveing noises and drove a fake car wheel like she had been driving fast but she did't drive fast but it was my firts trip in a car



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09 May 2007, 9:38 am

When I was being diagnosed with AS I was told I was hyperlexic too. I was also told that while hyperlexics aren't necessarily autistic, a large percentage are. Can't remember the percentage but I'm sure it's somewhere near 66% or higher.