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16 Sep 2016, 12:45 am

I don't understand how people could want their child to be on the spectrum. It's like being blind, and hoping your child will be blind too, just so they can struggle through the same challenges as you.

Having an Aspie child means it has a higher risk of being socially isolated and bullied at school, and I don't want to see my child go through that. Having a more severe autistic child means more challenges bringing it up, the world has to revolve around this child because otherwise the child will have meltdowns when there's light or noise. And some autistic children are unable to bond with you, others can become aggressive, and family life isn't normal.

NT children generally turn out the way you bring them up (until they get to adolesence), and they are more likely to have friends in school. I know NTs can be bullied too, but the risk is higher with autistic children (and children with any difference, not just autism).

I have always been able to bond with my NT parents and brother, I am very close to my mum and many other members of my family who are all NTs, I have a healthy and close relationship with my NT boyfriend, so I'm sure I will be able to bond with my own child that I will carry for 9 months, give birth to, feed, and love with all my heart.


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16 Sep 2016, 3:08 am

I don't want to create anyone who has the risk of going through what I went through, or even worse.
I won't be passing on a supposed "gift" unlike what some posters here keep on insisting it is.


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16 Sep 2016, 3:41 am

Three adult children, no regret at all. They have all managed to find their niche in the world. Their neurology is:

1 = Aspergers Syndrome
2 = Neurotypical
3= BAP

They are in their 40s now, and I feel blessed and privileged to be their mother.



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16 Sep 2016, 4:50 am

No, I don't want children, and it has nothing to do with the chances that they might be autistic. I'm really tired of people trying to convince me that they're wonderful and I should have them.



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16 Sep 2016, 5:52 am

B19 wrote:
Three adult children, no regret at all. They have all managed to find their niche in the world. Their neurology is:

1 = Aspergers Syndrome
2 = Neurotypical
3= BAP

They are in their 40s now, and I feel blessed and privileged to be their mother.


That's great :) Can I ask, what is BAP?



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16 Sep 2016, 6:01 am

Joe90 wrote:
I don't understand how people could want their child to be on the spectrum. It's like being blind, and hoping your child will be blind too, just so they can struggle through the same challenges as you.

Having an Aspie child means it has a higher risk of being socially isolated and bullied at school, and I don't want to see my child go through that. Having a more severe autistic child means more challenges bringing it up, the world has to revolve around this child because otherwise the child will have meltdowns when there's light or noise. And some autistic children are unable to bond with you, others can become aggressive, and family life isn't normal.

NT children generally turn out the way you bring them up (until they get to adolesence), and they are more likely to have friends in school. I know NTs can be bullied too, but the risk is higher with autistic children (and children with any difference, not just autism).

I have always been able to bond with my NT parents and brother, I am very close to my mum and many other members of my family who are all NTs, I have a healthy and close relationship with my NT boyfriend, so I'm sure I will be able to bond with my own child that I will carry for 9 months, give birth to, feed, and love with all my heart.


I think some people on the spectrum want their child to be on the spectrum too, in order for them to better understand their child, and for the child to better understand its parent. Which makes sense, but for me personally, I don't see it as a problem either. Almost everyone in my life are NT and we get along fine.



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16 Sep 2016, 6:04 am

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I have a toddler.

I didn't know I was autistic when she was born. She actually led me to my own journey of self-discovery.

I don't know if she's autistic or NT. My personal belief is that she's going to turn out to be on the spectrum, whilst my husband doesn't believe so and thinks I'm seeing things that aren't there, but either way we will work with it as it happens.

If she is autistic, she isn't exactly like me. Honestly, I don't know how the genetic inheritance truly works, but whilst I'm under-sensitive she seems to be over-sensitive. I need as much noise as possible to be relaxed, including very loud music, whilst she has a lot of issues with sound and needs ear defenders or to be removed from a situation involving sound - I have to mute the TV whenever a robot speaks, for example, because the sound bothers her, and we have to get her ear defenders out if a rubbish (garbage) truck passes us in the street. Equally, I require pressure as much as possible whilst she seems to have issues with light touch - her socks bother her, and if I knock her with a wire whilst I'm drying her hair then she doesn't like that.

Both of us get sensory overload in crowded places, resulting in meltdowns or shutdowns. I'd say that's to a similar level, but I have the benefit of internalising better (I don't know what I was like at her age).

I'd say we're at a similar level but with different mixes of traits. She's certainly high functioning at this stage, if she is autistic. But I genuinely don't understand enough to know if she could have 'inherited autism' but with some opposite traits to mine.

Regarding your concerns about 'I know the challenges and wouldn't want them to go through that'. As my husband pointed out to me, it is not going to be the same. Our children have the benefit of our experience and support. We can be the more accepting and understanding parents if our children do have autism, because we know how they feel. With a strong parent behind them, helping to adapt their world to their needs, they do not have to face a constant struggle.

About the capability of being a good parent? I can't say. I can say that I am confident that I'm a great parent. I have my autism-related issues, but they are SO far outweighed by all of the things that I am amazing at. I'm not perfect, but no parent is, and our children will learn from us how to be understanding of differences. If you can show a mature way of working through the difficulties you face in life, there is no better way to raise your child.

Obviously I can't know all of the individual difficulties that you face personally, but I will say this.

Everyone worries about being a good parent. That's only natural. And in fact, of all of the parents I know I'm the one that worries about it least. Whilst others are worried about what the books say, what other people will think, what the latest guidance tells them, what they 'should' be doing, I do all of my parenting by intuition. Nothing factors in to any of my parenting other than 'How does this affect my child? What's best for HER?'. As a result, I constantly see other parents concerned about things that have never been an issue for me at all. I have never had to think about how to do things or what to do next, because my daughter has communicated all of that from the moment that she was born. And she's doing exceptionally well, as a result.


This is some good advice, thank you ;)



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16 Sep 2016, 9:32 am

Joe90 wrote:
Having an Aspie child means it has a higher risk of being socially isolated and bullied at school, and I don't want to see my child go through that.


This is what bothers me, too... But I'm willing to do whatever it takes to help my child shine in the world.



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16 Sep 2016, 9:36 am

I can't even take care of myself let alone another human being. So no I don't want children. I am getting a vasectomy next March.



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16 Sep 2016, 2:48 pm

BAP stands for Broad Autistic Phenotype (some AS traits, though so mild and or few as to be "subclinical" - that is, they would not qualify for a diagnosis under the current criteria).



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16 Sep 2016, 5:11 pm

No, and not just because of my having Asperger's, but because things like bipolar disorder and other severe mental illnesses are genetic from my dad's side of the family. One uncle in particular is so mentally unstable that everyone else had to cut him out of their lives for their own mental and even physical health. He's never been violent, just verbally abusive to everyone he's come in contact with. It's basically because of that uncle that I don't want to have children in case I bring someone like him into the world.



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16 Sep 2016, 5:43 pm

Absolutely not. As a girl I get told a lot that I will change my mind, often with a knowing smile, but no f*****g way. I am violently against the idea; I don't know why but it's always been one of my strongest convictions.



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16 Sep 2016, 8:27 pm

Ye gods, no. Cant stand the little rodents, which is a word that rather sums up my opinion on kids in general.

Yes, I'm being unpleasant here... dont care. My opinion on this one has always been pretty strong.

Granted, it's not like I have any desire to ever have a relationship with anyone anyway, so it's a rather moot point...



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16 Sep 2016, 8:47 pm

I do; in fact, there's nothing I want more. Of course, I don't expect anyone to want to have children with me.


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16 Sep 2016, 10:15 pm

Yes, I do.


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22 Sep 2016, 4:02 pm

Also, to add to what I said: I also fear that my kids would inherit my ASD, and to tell you the truth I wouldn't want to burden a new life with something like that.

I wouldn't want them to feel like they are less intelligent or socially skilled than other kids; in short, I wouldn't want them to "feel different". I've actually considered having kids though genetic engineering, which would give them the edge compared to other people, but at the risky trade-off of complications.


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