What To Look For In Photographs Of You As A Child

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05 Oct 2016, 6:41 pm

That's interesting.

As far as how I looked in photographs, I think I looked pretty normal. I'm smiling in most of them and look present in the eyes.



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05 Oct 2016, 6:45 pm

I was assessed for epililepsy as a kid due to that vacant expression. They said it looked like i switched off and would stare at people when they talked to me.

Maybe i was just bored



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05 Oct 2016, 6:47 pm

I wish could find the place where I said my first words on the Internet!

It was in a research camp called Camp Harrelson. They were conducting research on autistic kids and "normal" kids. My other brother was one of the "normal" kids. This was back in 1966, when I was five years old.

I have pictures of myself from that time. I looked perfectly "normal."

Most of the time, I slept in the "main house." On the day I spoke my first words, though, I slept in a cabin by myself, and walked myself to the therapy room.



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05 Oct 2016, 6:50 pm

Wow, do you remember saying them?



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05 Oct 2016, 6:52 pm

I actually don't. I remember there was some kind of excitement at the time, though.

I do remember, a few days later, asking a teenaged babysitter for an orange soda. I believe I was prompted to do so.



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05 Oct 2016, 7:01 pm

I think I might have been the one mentioned in the OP. At least, I know I have written in WrongPlanet.net topics about using childhood photographs to show certain things related to autism in childhood. In my case, I brought childhood photographs with me to my diagnostic assessment. The photographs I chose showed a child from age two years to age 10 years who stared at cameras, closed his eyes when cameras were aimed in his direction, and never smiled. One particular photograph was taken in the mid-1960s on Christmas morning where I clearly showed no interest in my family or much else; again I was fixated on the camera. Another series of about 12 photographs taken by a professional photographer showed a child at about age three years whose expression transitioned with every successive photograph from curiosity to fear to anger to meltdown in about a minute. I remember that experience well as the photographer didn't understand why I disliked his bright flashing lights.

Of course, photographs alone prove nothing, but they help complete personal descriptions and memories of childhood quite well.


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05 Oct 2016, 7:04 pm

This is an interesting thread... Want to think about it and come back.


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05 Oct 2016, 7:14 pm

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I can't remember which thread it was but I remember someone saying if not much is known about your childhood you can find some evidence of ASD in photographs. Can someone please tell me exactly what to look for?

It's not really an exact science, but it's interesting. The topic reminded me of this video which details some possible signs to look for:

My mom called me a "good baby" and my dad a "spooky baby", both for the same reason that I almost never cried and appeared to just be "thinking" most of the time. I don't know if that's an Aspie thing or not, just something they thought notable.


I see what you mean about an exact science , I had alternative explanations for every photo she showed in that video. I suppose you only notice differences after you have been diagnosed.


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05 Oct 2016, 7:19 pm

Similar to AspieUtah, I too have a set of photos that were taken as a series in relatively quick succession, which show a progression from a happy expression on my face to extreme discomfort and even physically cringing from someone's touch. Now that I know what I know, the photos look like a textbook autism reaction to the situation that was taking place when the photos were taken.

If anyone wants to pour scorn on that and tell me it proves nothing, SURE I KNOW THAT. It proves nothing, but it sure does look like a kid with autism by today's knowledge, and no they are not the only pictures, I have plenty more like that. I'll PM scans if anyone wants to challenge that.

Sorry I'm a little on the defensive around this joint today.



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05 Oct 2016, 7:22 pm

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I think I might have been the one mentioned in the OP. At least, I know I have written in WrongPlanet.net topics about using childhood photographs to show certain things related to autism in childhood. In my case, I brought childhood photographs with me to my diagnostic assessment. The photographs I chose showed a child from age two years to age 10 years who stared at cameras, closed his eyes when cameras were aimed in his direction, and never smiled. One particular photograph was taken in the mid-1960s on Christmas morning where I clearly showed no interest in my family or much else; again I was fixated on the camera. Another series of about 12 photographs taken by a professional photographer showed a child at about age three years whose expression transitioned with every successive photograph from curiosity to fear to anger to meltdown in about a minute. I remember that experience well as the photographer didn't understand why I disliked his bright flashing lights.

Of course, photographs alone prove nothing, but they help complete personal descriptions and memories of childhood quite well.


Yeah it was you who mentioned it , didn't want to mention your by name ( don't know why , just didn't ).
I've been looking through photo's and can possibly identify ASD traits but they could also be nothing relevant , unfortunately I have no insightful memory of the photographs being taken and neither does anyone else.


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05 Oct 2016, 7:24 pm

I was a non-verbal, autistic kid who looked absolutely "normal" in photos.



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05 Oct 2016, 7:24 pm

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Similar to AspieUtah, I too have a set of photos that were taken as a series in relatively quick succession, which show a progression from a happy expression on my face to extreme discomfort and even physically cringing from someone's touch. Now that I know what I know, the photos look like a textbook autism reaction to the situation that was taking place when the photos were taken.

If anyone wants to pour scorn on that and tell me it proves nothing, SURE I KNOW THAT. It proves nothing, but it sure does look like a kid with autism by today's knowledge, and no they are not the only pictures, I have plenty more like that. I'll PM scans if anyone wants to challenge that.

Sorry I'm a little on the defensive around this joint today.


I'd love to see the the photo's , not to pour scorn but to compare.


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05 Oct 2016, 7:27 pm

BirdInFlight wrote:
Similar to AspieUtah, I too have a set of photos that were taken as a series in relatively quick succession, which show a progression from a happy expression on my face to extreme discomfort and even physically cringing from someone's touch. Now that I know what I know, the photos look like a textbook autism reaction to the situation that was taking place when the photos were taken.

If anyone wants to pour scorn on that and tell me it proves nothing, SURE I KNOW THAT. It proves nothing, but it sure does look like a kid with autism by today's knowledge, and no they are not the only pictures, I have plenty more like that. I'll PM scans if anyone wants to challenge that.

Sorry I'm a little on the defensive around this joint today.

No need to apologize. While my memories of the situations during each of my photographs are now understood in the proper context, my memories of the flashing lights and the sound of the 1960s light batteries as they "whirred" up to power for the next photograph, and the next, and the next ... well, they aren't pleasant memories. I think it is what caused me to close my eyes and/or look away. To this day, if someone brings out a camera, I cringe ... though my 35 years in politics has given me the ability to paste on a political smile and get over it.


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05 Oct 2016, 7:29 pm

SaveFerris wrote:
AspieUtah wrote:
I think I might have been the one mentioned in the OP. At least, I know I have written in WrongPlanet.net topics about using childhood photographs to show certain things related to autism in childhood. In my case, I brought childhood photographs with me to my diagnostic assessment. The photographs I chose showed a child from age two years to age 10 years who stared at cameras, closed his eyes when cameras were aimed in his direction, and never smiled. One particular photograph was taken in the mid-1960s on Christmas morning where I clearly showed no interest in my family or much else; again I was fixated on the camera. Another series of about 12 photographs taken by a professional photographer showed a child at about age three years whose expression transitioned with every successive photograph from curiosity to fear to anger to meltdown in about a minute. I remember that experience well as the photographer didn't understand why I disliked his bright flashing lights.

Of course, photographs alone prove nothing, but they help complete personal descriptions and memories of childhood quite well.

Yeah it was you who mentioned it , didn't want to mention your by name ( don't know why , just didn't ).
I've been looking through photo's and can possibly identify ASD traits but they could also be nothing relevant , unfortunately I have no insightful memory of the photographs being taken and neither does anyone else.

Quite true, but when you add your memories of each photograph, the combined effect is helpful to diagnosticians. Of course, it is just another piece of the puzzle, but a good one.


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05 Oct 2016, 7:31 pm

Yes, lights and things causing a reaction in the photos, it's all fair to realize what may be captured is rather telling in many ways.

Btw, my defensiveness in that other post was purely general, not aimed at the OP or you or anyone in this thread -- I just came back to this site after not caring to come here for a few days, and saw some stuff that seemed very pointed --- again.



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05 Oct 2016, 7:33 pm

I was really quite an oblivious kid.