Depression is caused by lack of sense of purpose, discuss

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17 Nov 2016, 4:53 pm

Yea, my heart had great experience of wisdom and knowledge. :cry:



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17 Nov 2016, 5:21 pm

Even the wise, rich, presumably-powerful, famous writer of a book of a Bible, couldn't be everywhere at once, accomplishing everything. You can have purpose and still be unhappy.

But, some people are said to be blissful, in their ignorance.



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17 Nov 2016, 5:30 pm

Starfoxx wrote:
Humans don't do well in an environment like we have today.

I agree that the current world environment is not conducive to humans doing well. There are a few at the top who manipulate things to their favour and the rest of us just wonder why we are dissatisfied all the time. It's because the lure is getting smaller and farther away. I think this is why Trump was elected. People are desperate for someone/thing to believe in. We have the misfortune of living at the end of Western Civilization.



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17 Nov 2016, 5:49 pm

As I am interested in DIY, and look at independent music, I see a recurring theme, where artsy hipster types find some scene, or ritual, in little things, which are well within their grasp. Some look completely ridiculous but are still content. Some of it becomes a fad, in rich venues, or crowds of people discover and overrun their secret places. I can think of very few, memorable, repeatable mannerisms, which came from typical people.

I think you have to decide for yourself, whether you find joy in your own circumstances.



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17 Nov 2016, 6:24 pm

EzraS wrote:
Clinical depression is caused by a chemical imbalance in the brain - not philosophy.


Depression (which I think is what the OP is talking about) and Clinical depression are two totally different things..Only a licensed psychiatrist can give out a diagnosis of CD. I really think they need a new name for "Clinical depression"



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17 Nov 2016, 6:34 pm

I think it's risqué, because you run the risk of telling people it's their own fault.

I understand that hard endurance exercise on a treadmill, getting bossed around, and being the boss, cause chemical changes in the brain. There is no way those lab rats tested as NT.

Maybe, it's a chicken-and-egg question.



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17 Nov 2016, 10:10 pm

No i think the majority of cases are simply longtern unhappiness with something. A lot may tend to set goals, these may never get fulfilled, causing depression, someone else can become depressed by so many triggers.

For me, I have quite a purpose in life, but I've been depressed without cause since i was a child. Such of this depression is long term, lacking motivation, having no appitite, mood swings etc. Diagnosed major depressed with hypomanic features.


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17 Nov 2016, 11:06 pm

Definitely.. Lack of purpose... Or inability to fulfill yours..at least in my point of view...That is if you're talking about work...but then again outside of work I have no purpose...so..you're idea of purpose may differ from mine...


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18 Nov 2016, 7:49 am

I think it can to to some extent however also the realization that you are different and what ever you do you will never be the same as everyone else is also a common cause of depression in autism.

While chemical balance is indeed the physiological cause of depression this can occur due to many environmental factors such as strong emotional experiences

I have a purpose but I still suffer with depression and sometimes that depression makes the purpose not seem purposeful anymore.



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18 Nov 2016, 8:29 am

Starfoxx wrote:
If someone has a sense of purpose they can always overcome anything. Depression is increasing in the western world because we do not have to struggle for anything and so don't feel like we are achieving anything. We are given everything we need and we don't know what then to do.

For example I feel less happy and less purpose now I have my life in order more. I kinda boring. I don't think we are supposed to have everything we want because what's next?

I think many people get partners because they feel like they have no worth without one and same for some people who have children.

What do you guys think?


Well I know there's such a thing as clinical depression, which is caused by chemistry... but there's also a much less mentioned situational depression that arises from problems in everyday life. In my case I would say that's most certainly correct: I didn't develop a sense of purpose until I met my partner at which point, my depression which I'd taken medication for in the past vanished. So I suppose your conclusion is true under certain circumstances, but isn't true of all people...



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18 Nov 2016, 1:56 pm

Having a sense of purpose is very helpful but the idea you can do anything is with a sense of purpose is unrealistic. No matter how hyperfocused you are you are not going to be able to run at 150 MPH


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18 Nov 2016, 3:33 pm

I have a great sense of purpose yet still become depressed if I am in an environment that is not suited to my needs.


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18 Nov 2016, 4:16 pm

Hmm. I'd have thought clinical depression would be Rare? Such as if you get a brain injury which makes you unable to feel good emotions



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18 Nov 2016, 4:31 pm

^Someone I know has clinical depression [or did, many years ago], and wasn't injured as far as I know.


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18 Nov 2016, 4:33 pm

Ok. now I'm curious



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18 Nov 2016, 4:35 pm

^I can potentially answer any questions you might have, as long as they don't delve too deeply [it's a bit of a personal matter, as you might have guessed].


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